2-man Charity Team Derby Oskaloosa IA, June 22/23

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Lunatic Promotions is proud to present it's annual 2-man team show in Oskaloosa, IA This year we are working with the Make a Wish Foundation. Since 1980, the Make-A-Wish Foundation® has enriched the lives of children with life-threatening medical conditions through its wish-granting work. The Foundation's mission reflects the life-changing impact that a Make-A-Wish® experience has on children, families, referral sources, donors, sponsors and entire communities.

We will be having full sized and compact 2 man teams. Full sized is 100% go Compacts we need at least 15 teams. as of now we have 10 committed.

Full sized will pay $4000 to win. Compacts will also pay $4000 to win if we do get the 15 teams. Been getting alot of calls so it should be a go on compacts but I'll post when I know for sure.

Fri night we will start at 7 pm All heats will be ran Fri night

All cars taht advance to the finals will be locked down fri night. We will open the pits at 9 am sat. morning. Guys running in the consi will have till 1 pm to get their cars reinspected. guys who advanced to the main will have from 9 am to 3 pm to get their cars reinspected. This should make it fair for everyone.

Sat. night we will start at 6 pm .
6pm 2 consi's
730 pm No weld class
8 30 trucks? need at least 8 committed trucks
9pm compact finals
10pm full sized finals.

I hope that we can make this a big show as I have committed at least $5000 to the make a wish foundation. This is what it takes to help one child get their last wish. Any questions on rules call Chad 515-297-0310 Any other questions call me 641-521-5569

Steve

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Lunatic Promotions, LLC Rules for 2012
General Rules
1. Any American made sedan or station wagon may be ran. No 73 or older Imperials or Imperial sub-frames, 03 and + Fords, 4x4’s, ambulances, hearses, trucks, etc.
2. 80/newer cars must be a 1980 or newer body style car.
3. Driver must be 18 years of age and have a valid driver’s license. Ages 14-17 must have a notarized permission slip and some form of driver’s license.
4. Driver must wear seat belt, helmet, and some form of eye protection.
5. No intentional driver’s door hits. It does happen and you will be dq’ed if we feel it was intentional. Do not use your door as a shield either as you will be disqualified for that also.
6. You will be given 30 seconds for an aggressive hit and 60 seconds for a restart or if you are hung up.
7. The only time we will pull two cars apart is when it is down to the final two. If a car is rolled over we will roll it back over and if it deemed safe will be allowed to run again.
8. No sandbagging or holding.
9. If you have 2 fires of any kind that need extinguishers to put it out, you will be disqualified.
10. All drivers and pit crew members must attend the drivers meeting
11. Any controversies will be taken up at the drivers meeting.
12. No Alcohol in the pits. If any driver or crewmember is caught with alcohol their car will be disqualified and removed from the grounds.
13. Cars are subject to re-inspection before any prize money is handed out. There is a $150 pro-test fee and you must be a driver in order to protest.
14. You must arrive 2 hours prior to any shows starting time, you will be charged a $50 late fee and if you do not arrive a 1 hour prior you will forfeit your entry fee. Please call if you will be late. You will only have 2 chances to go thru tech. If you do not make the necessary changes you will forfeit your entry.
15. Any questions call first. If it doesn’t say you can do it, don’t do it.
16. Judges decisions are final.
Car Preparation
1. All cars must be stock, unless modification is stated in the rules.
2. All glass, plastic, chrome, etc. must be removed before arriving at the derby. Do not paint on the frame or inside of the car. . Remove all grease from frame. Bolts to hold any chain can not go through the frame. No foam in frame.
3. All decking in station wagons must be removed.
4. Use motor and tranny of choice but must be in stock location. Motor and tranny mounts can be fabricated and welded as long as it does not strategically reinforce the frame, “A” frame, or shock towers. No engine mounts, braces, cables, or chains may extend more than 4” in front of, or 4” behind the a-frame. Pipe can be no bigger than 1 ½” inches or ½” thick flat steel. Motor or tranny can not be connected to any part of the cage. Crossmember must be in stock location and stock appearing with no extra bracing. Tranny guard may not be welded to the crossmemeber, can only be connected to the tranny. If we feel that it does you will cut it.
5. Use rear end of choice but must be 5 lug. Welding the rear end is allowed.
6. Radiator must be in stock location. No radiator barrels. Radiator guards cannot be welded to the radiator support.
7. Brakes must be workable and deemed safe.
8. Trailer hitches and any extra bracing must be removed.
9. A-arms and ball joints must remain stock.
10. Original gas tanks must be removed. You must use a boat tank or well made fuel cell and it must be properly secured and covered. NO GAS CANS. Plastic gas tanks must be covered with a metal shield. Place fuel cell behind driver’s seat or in the center of the car. Gas tank bolts can not be bolted or welded to or thru to the frame, sheet metal only. Sedans only may have a gas tank protector. It can be no wider than 24 inches, 12 inches on each side from the middle of the back seat area. It can not be attached to the back seat panel. Must run straight back off the seat bar. Cannot act as a kicker and can not be thicker than 2” thick tubing.
11. Tires no bigger than 15 inch. No split rims or studded tires. Valve stem protectors are ok.
12. Transmission coolers are allowed but must be safe.
13. Batteries must be moved to passenger floorboard and must be properly secured and covered.
14. Number must be on both doors and on top of your roof in visible colors.

Car Building
1. DO NOT weld on frames or frame seams anywhere except your bumpers and ONLY from the front of the A-arm forward may be welded on top side frame seam. All cars may weld a total of 16” from the firewall/crush box forward on the frame seam. All doors maybe welded solid using only 3/8” cold rolled filler, or up to 3” x 1/4” thick flat strap. Exterior only may be welded. NO inner seam welding anywhere!! Trunks/tailgates may be welded solid but must have at least a 12-inch square cut in them. Radiator support maybe welded.
2. If you do not weld your doors, trunk, or tailgate you can chain them with 3/8 chain or less and will be allowed 2 chains per seam or you may wire it with #9 wire up to 3 strands in two spots per seam.
3. The cage may be made of no bigger than 6” C-Channel or 4x4” square tubing. You are allowed a dash bar and 2 side bars and all side bars must be at least 10” behind the crush box or firewall. All horizontal bars must be at least 12” off the floor. A halo bar may be ran but it must be ran directly vertical of the back seat bar, cannot be angled. 2 down bars will be allowed but can not act as a kicker in any way or it will be cut. Sidebars cannot be longer than 60 inches and they cannot go past the backseat body mount on a ford or Chevy and no farther back than the front leaf spring shackle on a mopar. Cage maybe welded to the frame. Any cage parts that strengthen the frame or car will be cut.
4. Bumpers are interchangeable but must be a car bumper. No homemade bumpers or brackets. You can weld bumper brackets or towers to the frame. You can weld bumper brackets and shocks to the bumper. You can weld shocks to shock tower. Bumpers must be stock appearing and deemed safe. 2 Straps (4” wide, ¼” thick) or 2 strands of #9 wire can go from the bumper to the radiator support, not hood. You may add one strap (3” wide, 1/4” thick) that can go from any side of the bumper and be welded ONLY 3 inches past the front of the frame. It can not be angled or act as a kicker. Only one set of bumper shocks/brackets may be used. Bumper brackets or shocks cannot exceed 12” from the front of the frame. Can only be on one side of the frame. Call with any questions.
5. Rear bumper may have 2 straps from trunk deck or tailgate to bumper not to the frame. Straps can be up to 4” wide and no more than 5” on the bumper and 5” on the trunk or tailgate. Straps may be up to ¼” thick.
6. Hood must be off or open for inspection. Hoods can not be welded shut. Only bolted, wired or chained. Hood must have at least a 12-inch square hole cut out for fires. You are allowed 16 total bolts in your hood for your cutouts. You are allowed 8 hood bolts and must have at least 4. You can use up to 1” all thread for your hood bolts. Chrysler products may run all thread behind radiator support down to top of frame and be welded to top of frame with no added material. Hood bolts must be sheet metal to sheet metal. Hood plates can not exceed 5x5x1/2. Angle iron maybe be used as a hood plate but can not be thicker than 3/16” and not longer than 5 inches long. Only 2 of your hood bolts may go thru the frame.
7. Trunk/tailgate must be in stock location. You may fold over 60% of the trunk lid. No sedagoning of wagons or wedging of sedan trunks. You may run two 1” all thread from trunk lid to frame but must go through body mount hole.
8. Body mounts can be replaced with up to 1” bolts and the body mounts can be replaced with steel washers no bigger than 3”. No body bolt can be more than 12” long except 2 of your hood bolts. If you have your body mount washers on the bottom side of the frame u must have a ¾” spacer in. You do not need a ¾” space if you have your body mount washers up inside the frame. Body Bolts can not be welded to the side of the frame. You may add four body bolts. May weld the spacers to the body but not the frame. Bolts may extend through body and have up to a 5x5x1/4” thick washer on top but must be removed for inspection if we can not see inside the frame. Radiator support mounts can be 1” and removed and sucked down solid. You may also weld your 2 front radiator support all thread pieces to the top or side of the frame. You may also weld the front body mount spacer to the frame. No other all-thread may be welded to the frame.
9. Rust holes may be patched with sheet metal only, no thicker than 14 gauge sheet metal and do not cut the rust out. Do not weld at least 2” of the plate so that we can tell how thick it is. Weld only 2 inches past the rust hole. You may also use self tapping screws to screw a piece in over the rust but this is the only place self tapping screws may be used on the car.
10. Tie rod ends and rear control arms may be strengthened but must be workable.
11. Suspension must be stock height. Leaf springs must be stock. Leaf spring thickness can not be greater than 5/16” You may add one extra leaf spring as long as the main but it may not be wrapped to form a double main. Leaf springs must stagger down from longest to smallest. You must have a 2” stagger in the back and 1” stagger in the front. If you have a leaf spring on top of the main you will cut it completely out. No flat stacks or welding of stacks. NO Shackle can be bigger than 3” x 3/16” thickness. 6 clamps are allowed per side. Homemade clamps may not exceed 2x4x1/4”. You can put spacers in sagging coil springs. You may bolt or wire your coils in to prevent them from falling out. You may loop wire or chain from rear end to frame in 2 spots on each side. No bigger than #9 wire (4strands max.) or 3/8” chain may be used. You may run wire from frame rail to frame rail in two spots behind the rear end.
12. You will be allowed 8 spots total inside the car of #9 wire.
13. Hardtop cars can weld a strap at the doorpost.
14. May alter steering column.
15. You may cut out wheel wells for tire clearance. Fenders may be bolted with 8 3/8” bolts only. No welding of the cutouts.
16. Must have at least 1 windshield bar in the front windshield for safety purposes. Windshield bar can only attach to firewall sheet metal not to any other bars. Do not connect your bar to your halo bar or roof sign. Your bars must also be at least 3” outside your distributor protector. You can not run a back window bar at all.
17. Rusty frames maybe repaired with 1/8” metal, 2” past the rust. Leave 1” unwelded so we may see how thick the steel is.
18. Bent Frames: You will only be allowed 4 total spots per frame rail with no thicker than a 1/8” steel and maybe not be any bigger than a 4”x6” piece. You must least at least 2” between the patches. No doubling of patching. We must be able to clearly see the bend or you will cut the patch off.
19. No pinning of the frame. Bolts can not go thru the frame for chaining or wiring purposes.
20. If we have any suspicion that your car might be illegal we will drill one or more holes in your frame.
21. Distributor protectors will be allowed. The protector can only be mounted to engine and or tranny bell housing. There must be 6 inches of clearance between the Fire wall/dash sheet metal and the dash bar at the start of the event. Dist. Cap protector can't be mounted to body, frame, cage. No rear engine straps can be connected to DP. DP can’t be bigger the 12”X12” Firewall must remain stock with no reinforcing allowed.
22. All Fuel Lines Must be ran inside the car with high pressured lines and deemed safe!

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23. If you are running a 70 or older Lincoln, you must drill a ½” hole 6-10” in front of the fire wall on the outside of the frame for inspection purposes.
24. You may convert a Watts Link Ford to a GM rearend in the following way. Use the trailing arm brackets off an older ford or metal of the same size and thickness. You may cut out the package tray out of an older ford and weld it back in with only one pass ¼” thick. It cannot be positioned to strengthen the rear hump or frame. Call before doing it if there is any question!
25. Anything that we, as officials, feel that you have strengthen the car in an unfair advantage, you will have to cut it.
26. Leaf conversions on 80’s cars: May only be done if running in an old iron class.
a. Must use the factory lower control arm mounts bracket for front leaf bolts. No short stacks or sideway mounted leafs allowed. You may lightly re-weld control arm bracket seams, but no frame reinforcements.
b. You are allowed 9 leaf’s maximum, only one as long as the main(and under the main), and the rest must be staggered every 2 inches. You may use 5 leaf spring clamps per side. No welding. Springs must be of passenger car origin.
c. May weld 3 inch washer to frame for rear mount bolt. No other welding or bracing allowed on frame.
d. You CAN NOT weld 16 inches behind the a-arm if you leaf and 80’s car.
e. If you do leaf an 80’s car, your DP can not be against the firewall. If you choose to run a DP it can not touch the firewall, before, during, or after the event if your car is leafed
Rules for Compact Building
1. General Rules and Car Preparation also apply to compacts except for the following.
2. Wheelbase is 108 inches or less with a 4 or 6 cylinder motor.
3. 4x4’s can be run but one drive shaft must be removed. No altering Wheelbase
4. A 2x2 ¼ inch thick piece maybe added on the top side of the radiator support but must be between the two pieces of all-thread and cannot exceed the outside of the frame.
5. All Frame and Body seams maybe welded under the hood, firewall forward with no filler.
6. All cage rules apply with the exception that the side bars can be no longer than 72 inches
7. One back window bar maybe ran in the middle of the back window. It cannot exceed 2 inches wide and ¼ inch thickness and must be in front of the truck seam and cannot be attached to the halo bar.
8. You will be allowed to do one of the following, not both(neither can be 12 inches behind the front of the frame):
a. Run a stock shock and bracket that cannot exceed 12 inches. If you do this the shock must be inside the bracket.
b. Run a pipe no bigger than 3 inches in diameter or a 3x3” tube. Neither can be thicker than ¼”. Neither of these may be longer than 12”. If you do this option you must have a ½” hole drilled in your frame at the 12” point. You must also drill in your pipe or tube a ½” hole so we can see how thick it is also. These must be drilled before coming thru inspection.
9. You may run 6 leaf springs anyway you want. Cannot double wrap the main and must be no thicker than 5/16” You may use up to 6 spring clamps. Stagger must be 2” inches in the back and 1” in the front.
10. You may wedge a trunk but if you do your bumper height must be a minimum of 18 inches off the ground from the bottom of the back bumper.


Wire Class rules:

1. Engines, trannys, and rear ends can be swapped but you can not add any extra metal to do so.
2. Bumpers may be changed but must be bolted on. You may weld the bumper to the shock but no other filler and bumper cannot be welded to the frame.
3. Driver’s door may be welded shut. All other doors, hood, and trunk must be wired or chained shut. One wrap of chain per door or seam. No bolting or cable anywhere.
4. Unlimited #9 wire.
5. Rear ends may be welded
6. Body mounts must remain stock.
7. No patching rust or the frame. Patching will only be allowed for safety purposes.
8. Cage rule applies but you cannot have any down bars. No bars can come in contact with sheet metal or frame. Halo bar must be vertical and come off the back seat bar.
9. Tire rule applies
10. 1” all thread maybe ran thru the radiator support to the hood.
11. Floor shifter and block mounted gas pedals are allowed.
12. No performance parts allowed, example: slider driver shafts, Distributor protectors, etc.
13. Everything must remain stock except the above mentioned items. This class is about having fun and tearing stuff up.

For questions about rules call Chad @ 515- 297-0310

For general questions or more info call Steve @641-521-6659

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Lunatic Promotions, L.L.C. Entry Form
2 Man Team Demolition Derby

Team(Circle One) Full Sized Compact

Please write so we can read!!

Team Captain

Name___________________________________________________

Address_________________________________________________

City______________________________State_________Zip______

Phone______________________________

E-mail address__________________________________________

Car Make and Model____________________________________

Car #______________

Driver #2 Name___________________________________________________

Address_________________________________________________

City______________________________State_________Zip_______

Phone______________________________

E-mail address__________________________________________

Car Make and Model___________________________________

Car #______________

Teams will fill on a first come first serve basis.
As soon as we receive your entry/money in the mail I will contact you by phone to pick your team color/colors

Entry Fee is $300 per team of 2

Please make check or money order out to and send to
Lunatic Promotions, LLC.
5365 E. 92nd St. S.
Newton, IA 50208


For General Information
Steve Terlouw at 641-831-4833 or email [e-mail]

For Questions on Rules
Chad Draeger at 515-297-0310

[hvyeqop69]

All these darn new websites, I still havent figured out where everyone is hiding.
It seems as if there is only 4 of us on Sams site.

[allout]

glad to c you made it over here steve!! where is the wild man that likes to drink a ton of diet dew!!!

[lt1]

I thought all cars was getting locked down on friday not just the ones that made the feature

[bearhunter]

No just Feature cars. Tom

[lt1]

Well thats messed up on the old website u guys said all cars will be locked down on friday. The cars that didnt make it was gonna beable to work on them until midnight. Then they would be locked down until the next morning. So why the change?

[bearhunter]

Feb 21, 2012 1:19:25 GMT -5 lt1 said:

Well thats messed up on the old website u guys said all cars will be locked down on friday. The cars that didnt make it was gonna beable to work on them until midnight. Then they would be locked down until the next morning. So why the change?

Maybe Ill just let Steve take it from here. But the way I understood it was only the cars that made the feature got locked down, and that the fairgrounds grounds were to be locked down by midnight. Because we cant leave them open, and we are not going to stay there all night either. But I could be wrong. Dont get bent out of shape til Steve gives the offical word on this. You have to remember the cars that dont make it have to come back and run consi's and then come to the feature, so IN MY HUMBLE OPINION they deserve more time to work on their cars cause they are going to have to use their car even more. Its not any different than most derbies. Tom

[lt1]

Not getting bent out of shape just want to verifiy whats going on.

[demo50thing]

when are we goin to know what color we are?

[lt1]

I have been wondering for awhile last I heard it was when they get enough entries recived.

[critter]

STEVE I was hopping that chad could make all of the decision with out ya oh i forgot no diet dew ok glad u found it!! oh where is chad

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They do not have eenough room in the buildings to lock down all the cars. The guys from the consi will have to run again so their cars will have ran through two heats. Also we are limiting it to 4 plates as stated in our rules per side anywhere you want. So if you come out of your heat and have to run the consi and use up all 4 plates you are not allowed to put anymore on after the consi. The guys that make the feature will have plenty of time to make repairs.

Full sized is a go and I will hopefully get to calling guys this weekend who have sent in entries . Compacts we still need just a few more if all the guys that said they were coming would send their enties in we'd be over what we need.

Steve