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« Thread Started on Sept 6, 2011, 6:11pm »
are the spirts hard cars the car is pre ran and steal looks like it has alot of life in it but i dont know alot about compacts and woundering if you can lower it in the back end and be ok if you wedge it
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« Reply #1 on Sept 7, 2011, 7:53am »
they are tough for sure...I've never built one yet but have 3 and the rears look hard. i know the one that i hit was less crushable than my pinto was expecting ...lol
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« Reply #2 on Sept 7, 2011, 5:35pm »
well good im glad bc i dont know much about lil cars and how well was the cars built could you tell
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« Reply #3 on Sept 8, 2011, 10:32pm »
around here we have rules that let you build a good car and mine has been around since april. they are good cars with some work. i have 3 1st places and 4 2nd places. the only reason i got 2nd is cause 3 time i got hung up and couldnt get off. i have not had a better car
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« Reply #4 on Sept 9, 2011, 7:23am »
it was a ddra rules spirit so it coulda had pretty much anything done to it..no idea though i Didn't go look at it. the ones i have look pretty tough though for sure other than the cheezy bumpers and brackets but that can be fixed.
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« Reply #5 on Sept 9, 2011, 7:33am »
We've run a few SX4's (same body, just taller). DDRA rules let you build a pretty dang stiff car. Even stock, the Spirit hatchbacks have the hardest back end of any mini out there. I don't think I would bother to wedge it. Weld the hatch solid, couple sticks of all thread through the bottom part of it, best leaf pack your rules allow. Push it down a lil & chain the humps, kickers from the seat bar to the front spring perches if allowed.
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« Reply #6 on Sept 9, 2011, 7:46am »
clean out the lead seam in rear 1/4/hatch area and weld a solid bead, then skim coat with filler.
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Clean it out?? I always thought burning that lead would put some hair on yer butt...lol.
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Clean it out?? I always thought burning that lead would put some hair on yer butt...lol.
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« Reply #9 on Sept 9, 2011, 7:11pm »
So its a hard car with work and it has a built crown vick bumper on it and do they have a frame under the car
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So its a hard car with work and it has a built crown vick bumper on it and do they have a frame under the car
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« Reply #11 on Sept 10, 2011, 7:50am »
ok well im picking the car up today and should i fully weld door seems or just in spots and the front clip seems as well thanks for all your the help ill prob steal have ? along this build
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this your clean up car 212? lol
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« Reply #13 on Dec 9, 2011, 8:38am »
Time for this one to go in the locator.
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How do you fix the ball joints in a spirit? Anyone have any pics?
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There is also a lead seam where the A pillar meets the roof
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How do you fix the ball joints in a spirit? Anyone have any pics?
on the upper ball joint take an air hammer and chisel the the metal off untill u expose the steel ball there will be plastic around the ball inside the joint cut some of it out to get the top of the ball clean then turn your welder up and weld a med. washer to the ball make sure the washer clears everything when you turn then weld a large washer to that washer make sure you get good penetration to the ball if not the washer will pop right off after you fix the upper the lower usally wont come apart will try to get pics later
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I thought my factory replacemnet balljoints from napa worked pretty good
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[quote/]on the upper ball joint take an air hammer and chisel the the metal off untill u expose the steel ball there will be plastic around the ball inside the joint cut some of it out to get the top of the ball clean then turn your welder up and weld a med. washer to the ball make sure the washer clears everything when you turn then weld a large washer to that washer make sure you get good penetration to the ball if not the washer will pop right off after you fix the upper the lower usally wont come apart will try to get pics later[/quote]
hope to get some pics this sounds important lol
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well ill take a little luck every once in awhile ;D but theres more to why everybody has issues with suspension , did wanna put my wagon on the alignment rack when i was done derbying it but I decided agianst it as sai (steering axis inclination) would if been f**ked, caster would of been horrible, and camber would of been negative, and toe was off a smidge off as my steering wheel wasnt center after the derby, but steering returnabilty was steel pretty decent
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still waiting on the pics there haystire lol
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are the spirts hard cars the car is pre ran and steal looks like it has alot of life in it but i dont know alot about compacts and woundering if you can lower it in the back end and be ok if you wedge it
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they are tough for sure...I've never built one yet but have 3 and the rears look hard. i know the one that i hit was less crushable than my pinto was expecting ...lol
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well good im glad bc i dont know much about lil cars and how well was the cars built could you tell
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around here we have rules that let you build a good car and mine has been around since april. they are good cars with some work. i have 3 1st places and 4 2nd places. the only reason i got 2nd is cause 3 time i got hung up and couldnt get off. i have not had a better car
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it was a ddra rules spirit so it coulda had pretty much anything done to it..no idea though i Didn't go look at it. the ones i have look pretty tough though for sure other than the cheezy bumpers and brackets but that can be fixed.
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« Reply #5 on Sept 9, 2011, 7:33am »
We've run a few SX4's (same body, just taller). DDRA rules let you build a pretty dang stiff car. Even stock, the Spirit hatchbacks have the hardest back end of any mini out there. I don't think I would bother to wedge it. Weld the hatch solid, couple sticks of all thread through the bottom part of it, best leaf pack your rules allow. Push it down a lil & chain the humps, kickers from the seat bar to the front spring perches if allowed.
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There is also a lead seam where the A pillar meets the roof
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How do you fix the ball joints in a spirit? Anyone have any pics?
on the upper ball joint take an air hammer and chisel the the metal off untill u expose the steel ball there will be plastic around the ball inside the joint cut some of it out to get the top of the ball clean then turn your welder up and weld a med. washer to the ball make sure the washer clears everything when you turn then weld a large washer to that washer make sure you get good penetration to the ball if not the washer will pop right off after you fix the upper the lower usally wont come apart will try to get pics later
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« Reply #18 on Dec 19, 2011, 4:38pm »
Dec 19, 2011, 2:27pm, widefrickenopen wrote:
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[quote/]on the upper ball joint take an air hammer and chisel the the metal off untill u expose the steel ball there will be plastic around the ball inside the joint cut some of it out to get the top of the ball clean then turn your welder up and weld a med. washer to the ball make sure the washer clears everything when you turn then weld a large washer to that washer make sure you get good penetration to the ball if not the washer will pop right off after you fix the upper the lower usally wont come apart will try to get pics later[/quote]
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well ill take a little luck every once in awhile ;D but theres more to why everybody has issues with suspension , did wanna put my wagon on the alignment rack when i was done derbying it but I decided agianst it as sai (steering axis inclination) would if been f**ked, caster would of been horrible, and camber would of been negative, and toe was off a smidge off as my steering wheel wasnt center after the derby, but steering returnabilty was steel pretty decent
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