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« Reply #105 on Nov 10, 2011, 11:40am »
hellbent....your from ohio right ? what shows do you usually run?just wondering.....i'm from ohio as well.
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« Reply #106 on Nov 10, 2011, 11:49am »
Nov 10, 2011, 11:37am, pintodave wrote:
boy hellbent .....if that thing were stuffed anymore it would be a thanksgiving turkey ! ;D ;D hahaha i agree the core supports suck.....especially the top.....if you can get a piece of angle or anything up there it will do alot of good......and ranger is right....i have always called the mud and snows diggers...and the tractor tire type bar treads or just tractor tires....sorry about the mix up.
Haha...i understood what you meant, but there seemed to be some confusion on it. I tried to clear it up, but just made it worse. But hey, everone has to be good at somethin', right? If it ain't broke, I fix it til it is! ;D
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« Reply #107 on Nov 10, 2011, 3:26pm »
yea i am from georgetown ohio i run rotroff derbies and some times i run some don long derbys and even some in kentucky where you from dave
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« Reply #108 on Nov 10, 2011, 3:58pm »
some where north central. he drive down and traded for a spirit i got rid of. about 6 hours or so each way. where do the pintos bend once they start
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« Reply #109 on Nov 10, 2011, 5:51pm »
i really couldn't tell ya mine still ain't bending lol!!!
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« Reply #110 on Nov 10, 2011, 6:29pm »
lol then what puts you out?
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« Reply #111 on Nov 10, 2011, 7:08pm »
at first i was losing due to the fact that my leaf stacks were to stiff and wasn't using a slider shaft, now i use one and no problem with that. this year i blew a clutch apart every derby:(
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« Reply #112 on Nov 10, 2011, 7:31pm »
ranger is right...north central ohio....smashit has had our fair derby the last two years.......thinking about heading to washington courthouse for the memorial day weekend show. ;D ;D
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« Reply #113 on Nov 10, 2011, 7:37pm »
i just heard that smash it took over back to back promotions so maybe i will see ya there hard to tell its a good ways away lol
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« Reply #114 on Nov 10, 2011, 7:48pm »
was you droping drive shafts. i have not messed with a slider yet. should i build one or buy
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« Reply #115 on Nov 10, 2011, 8:02pm »
yeah as far as i know they did take over......that washington courthouse show is a long way for me too.....1000 to win compacts i guess.......of course the 80's and up fullsize is 11000 to win........what a crock ! compacts should be like 2500 !......oh well.....back on topic.....i have only lost one drive shaft due to lack of knowledge......springs rotated and came through floor in front of the leaves......took care of that
.......haven't had one drop since......never used a slider either.
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« Reply #116 on Nov 10, 2011, 8:05pm »
oh and btw...yeah that was a looooong drive to get the spirit ! ;D about 675 miles round trip! only took about 13 hours !
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« Reply #117 on Nov 10, 2011, 8:15pm »
hope you do good with it tho. i drove another 75 miles each way when i got it. further from you. i think with the exception of possibly a slider i got everything i need to build this turd. found 2 mustangs for 400 dollars so once i kill it i will be building them. working on a sponsor too. might even end up running a ohio show or to.
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« Reply #118 on Nov 11, 2011, 3:09am »
all my stuff was too stiff and i would actually bust the drive shaft or motor mounts and tranny mounts. i just built one go to tractor supply and get your yokes there and everything i did mine for about 100 bucks i think it was and it has worked good for about 2 and a half years so far
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« Reply #119 on Nov 12, 2011, 7:51am »
you have any pics of your slider
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« Reply #120 on Nov 12, 2011, 11:33am »
i'll see if i can get some for ya its all put away for winter
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« Reply #121 on Nov 12, 2011, 11:39am »
hey hellbent.....pm me when your next show comes up....i'd like to come and watch and meet up and b.s. a little.
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« Reply #122 on Nov 12, 2011, 11:19pm »
sounds good dave i am thinking the first show that i will be at for next year is going to be in like may???
i;ll let ya know
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« Reply #123 on Nov 13, 2011, 4:26pm »
ok sounds good......
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« Reply #124 on Nov 13, 2011, 7:50pm »
Aug 16, 2011, 9:34pm, pintodave wrote:
oh and btw...some pintos came stock with the 8" rear....usually the 6 cylinder cars but every once in a while you will find a 4 banger with on.....my fresh '80 wagon has a 4 cylinder with a c-4 but has the 6 3/4" rear
.....haven't seen that combo before....it's usually the c-3. some of the 8's can be found in the '60's mustangs as well.....they are coil rears though.
Thats the combo my wagon originally had in it....I figured a wagon would've came factory with the bigger/better rear end.
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« Reply #125 on Nov 13, 2011, 7:59pm »
i've only seen the 8 inch rears come in v6 cars???
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« Reply #126 on Nov 13, 2011, 8:06pm »
my 80 wagon has a 2.3, 4 speed, 6.75
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« Reply #127 on Nov 14, 2011, 9:13pm »
working on a 76 i do believe right now... how do you get the bumper height up front on a pinto wagon? first one and it dont have my engine in it yet and is one sitting at like 17 to the bottom of the bumper??? thanks
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« Reply #128 on Nov 15, 2011, 4:12am »
there is a couple different ways to approach this you could weld your suspension all the way up. you could put bigger longer coil springs in to make it set higher but then you have to get longer shocks. you could just put some big 14 inch mobile home tires on the front that will raise it some. just slide the bumper up a little higher on the shock and weld the crap out of it but not too high up you still want it to be some what in front of the frame
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« Reply #129 on Nov 16, 2011, 10:47am »
yeah i dont like sliding the bumpers up on frames very much.. to me puts to much pressure on the top side of the frame to bend up,,, and the bumper i run would be even worse for doing that. but ummm... we are aloud to weld suspension solid and i was going to weld a strap of steel overtop the spring bucket and the arms but that still doesnt raise it up but another inch max, its maxed out now with no engine in it.. didnt know if there was anything to adjust or do to raise it. thank you for the help
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« Reply #130 on Nov 20, 2011, 5:08pm »
dumb question but in a pinto has anyone ever seen one with a metal inner fender?? mine have always been plastic. if not what is the best inner fender to use, fabbing up wise?
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« Reply #131 on Nov 20, 2011, 6:17pm »
i believe mine is metal but ill look tomorrow
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« Reply #132 on Nov 20, 2011, 6:39pm »
sorry there plastic......someone painted them same color as car so threw me off.lol
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« Reply #133 on Nov 20, 2011, 6:48pm »
i haven't ever seen any personally but i know i seen someone a while back that had there front fenders pushed in on their pinto and the lip was cut into flaps that flapped over the outside of the fender and welded it just wanting to figure out something to use to achieve that or if they ever came with metal ones lol
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« Reply #134 on Nov 20, 2011, 10:19pm »
how are you guys keeping the fronts down on theese without using C channel??
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« Reply #135 on Nov 21, 2011, 2:41pm »
seam weld and plate where it usually bends is all i can say
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« Reply #137 on Nov 24, 2011, 11:45am »
Bad deal phil lol
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« Reply #138 on Nov 25, 2011, 1:27am »
Hey guys just joined website and had to find the pinto forum.
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« Reply #139 on Nov 25, 2011, 6:53am »
welcome punisher you got any tricks on these cars or just looking to read up on them?
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« Reply #140 on Nov 25, 2011, 11:04pm »
Well so far I have only ran one pinto. Used to demo big cars and just switched last year when I ran a Vega. The pinto I ran this year was pretty tuff and I got 3rd place with it. The best hint I can give you is to build your back end strong. A lot of people say these are front end cars, but with a couple added leafs your rear end chained down, and a good back bumper that back end is not moving. Not only is this good for making some huge hits but being able to use your rearend will also protect your radiator.
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« Reply #141 on Dec 4, 2011, 6:58pm »
Crazy question, I am building a pinto model and trying to make the front suspension look more realistic then the one on it. are the lower arm a A arm or more a sinlge arm and the upper a A arm like on the fronts of Mustang IIs
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« Reply #142 on Dec 4, 2011, 8:31pm »
the same as mustang II's the front steering is identical
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« Reply #143 on Dec 5, 2011, 4:56pm »
how do i tell if i have a 6.75 or an 8 inch?
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« Reply #144 on Dec 5, 2011, 5:05pm »
6.75 loads from the back and has the removable diff cover. An 8" loads from the front and does not have the removable cover.
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« Reply #145 on Dec 17, 2011, 10:43am »
looking at my pinto and a guys stang i have the fronts look darn near identical. are you guys shortening the fronts like the foxbodies?
also, someone mentioned i should shorten it. dont even know how to go at it.
never done it, is there a thread about shortening somewhere? pics would be appreciated.
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« Reply #146 on Dec 17, 2011, 12:39pm »
i personally have never shortened a pinto or mustang 2 never needed to, i don't think you would have much room up front if you did shorten it. i have shortened a couple foxbodies though
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« Reply #147 on Jan 7, 2012, 6:29pm »
does anyone run with out an alternator or powersteering pump and only have belts from crank to waterpump
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« Reply #148 on Jan 7, 2012, 8:04pm »
i don't use power steering in mine, but i do put a good chevy alternator on mine, just to keep my battery up
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« Reply #149 on Jan 8, 2012, 2:21pm »
im just wondering if i could eliminate the alt and pwr steer and only have a belt to the waterpump
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« Reply #150 on Jan 8, 2012, 3:41pm »
Sure can.........but I leave mine on just as extra protection for the distributor.
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« Reply #151 on Jan 8, 2012, 3:43pm »
You can leave the alt. on just don't run the belt there.........either way will work.
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« Reply #152 on Jan 8, 2012, 4:08pm »
So now that that's straight. My rear is the 6.75 lsd how can I make it posi
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Re: Ford Pinto/Mercury Bobcat Tips and Tricks
« Reply #154 on Jan 8, 2012, 8:23pm »
How to you weld a carrier when there isn't one I looks like a. Spool
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Re: Ford Pinto/Mercury Bobcat Tips and Tricks
« Reply #155 on Jan 8, 2012, 9:01pm »
somewhere on here c4 explained how to weld a 6 3/4. or jest buy a 8 from me
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« Reply #156 on Jan 8, 2012, 9:04pm »
Aug 14, 2011, 11:18pm, C4 wrote:
I have done it. It is more work than a rear end swap...even if you have to move or fab mounts.
1. Remove and completely disassemble differential.
2. Weld to perfection. Every little over weld involves grinder time.
3. Reassemble and re-install.
4. Repeat 1-3 over and over til you get it right. Took me a lil over 1/2 a day.
I got lucky with mine. I used it, including it's axles, for 6 derbies before I threw it away. I've heard others were not so fortunate.
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Re: Ford Pinto/Mercury Bobcat Tips and Tricks
« Reply #157 on Jan 8, 2012, 11:27pm »
There is a carrier there. It is just really small and completely enclosed, and a real pain in the arse. If I ever decide to use one again, I think I'll disassemble it, clean it up, put it back together, fill it up with JB weld, let it cure a couple days & re-install it. I did this to a small, similar Toyota rear last year & it worked out fine.
But I probably won't use another one.
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« Reply #158 on Jan 9, 2012, 6:22am »
cant you just weld the axles inside the lsd?
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Re: Ford Pinto/Mercury Bobcat Tips and Tricks
« Reply #159 on Jan 9, 2012, 9:53am »
I would not touch a welder to any axle shaft.
But, LSD??? Haven't touched anything like that in a long, long time.
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« Reply #160 on Jan 9, 2012, 10:36am »
You think a ranger rear end is two wide?
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« Reply #161 on Jan 10, 2012, 12:28pm »
got a 78 pinto wagon floorboards and rear wheel wells have alot of rust frame and a-arms in good shape and so is the front of the car. should i build it and run it or...?
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« Reply #162 on Jan 10, 2012, 1:28pm »
Jan 9, 2012, 10:36am, grim84 wrote:
You think a ranger rear end is two wide?
should line up, know a few guys that have used them. If you do your research should be able to find one decent stock gears to boot
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« Reply #163 on Jan 10, 2012, 6:03pm »
Jan 10, 2012, 12:28pm, DOUBLE D wrote:
got a 78 pinto wagon floorboards and rear wheel wells have alot of rust frame and a-arms in good shape and so is the front of the car. should i build it and run it or...?
Not good just sell me parts off it
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« Reply #164 on Jan 10, 2012, 7:40pm »
haha...i've had a lot of offers but I'm itching to run it, any advice regarding the rust..?
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« Reply #165 on Jan 11, 2012, 6:15am »
unless you do a good amount of patching a good hit from behind could be your demise with the rust
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« Reply #166 on Jan 11, 2012, 7:22am »
Jan 10, 2012, 7:40pm, DOUBLE D wrote:
haha...i've had a lot of offers but I'm itching to run it, any advice regarding the rust..?
break out the welder and sheet metal..
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Re: Ford Pinto/Mercury Bobcat Tips and Tricks
« Reply #167 on Jan 20, 2012, 6:40pm »
any one know what other vehicles i can take the leafs off for my 74 pinto wagon?
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« Reply #168 on Jan 20, 2012, 6:53pm »
also does any1 else have the 2.8 v6 bc its not fun finding parts 4!
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« Reply #169 on Jan 20, 2012, 6:55pm »
ford ranger leafs will work on a pinto .
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« Reply #170 on Jan 22, 2012, 10:37am »
does anybody have any c4 or c3 trannies for the 2.3 they interested in selling hopfuly in nebraska or close
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Re: Ford Pinto/Mercury Bobcat Tips and Tricks
« Reply #171 on Jan 24, 2012, 5:25pm »
ok i have a dumb question is a 76 duece and a quarter bumper too much for a 79 hatchback? the frame is welded and channeled. it just looks so darn big on the front of this car i was just wondering!!! thanks guys
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« Reply #172 on Jan 25, 2012, 3:46pm »
Jan 20, 2012, 6:53pm, pintosmasher wrote:
also does any1 else have the 2.8 v6 bc its not fun finding parts 4!
yes i do and yes they are
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Re: Ford Pinto/Mercury Bobcat Tips and Tricks
« Reply #173 on Feb 1, 2012, 12:04am »
Is a ford maverick the same platform and or just as good???
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« Reply #174 on Feb 1, 2012, 6:27am »
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Is a ford maverick the same platform and or just as good???
i would say not. but if its a 4 door the wheelbase is 110 or so. 2 doors would fit
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Re: Ford Pinto/Mercury Bobcat Tips and Tricks
« Reply #175 on Feb 1, 2012, 9:43pm »
Hey guys him building a pinto and its my first one, i read that u guys use a 8'' rear axle but what about using the 7.50 from fox chassi. Is a front bumper from a chev round back wagon would be to stiff for the front of the pinto or what kind of bumper should i use. thanks in advance for helping me winning. Also what about running a 8.8 rear end from ranger or mustang
.......haven't had one drop since......never used a slider either.
