Post by LD50 on Feb 12, 2012 11:44:57 GMT -5
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It looks about the same in the rear with one more run on it after this, front on the other hand not so hot lol.
9 heats total on this rig, she has got one more good one left in the front. butt is rock hard but all used up, Its kinda stopped moving but a few hay makers would do her in lol..
that chrome bumper on the back of that blue one, is that a ltd2 front bumper?
Yes that be what it is, in my eyes don't need nothing special back there just alittle something to help roll her up. Good place for the cheesy bumpers
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« Reply #110 on Nov 4, 2011, 5:48am »
for the question on the aluminum dogbone motor mounts..... just take a piece of angle iron and drill a hole in each end and bolt it to the side of the dogbone with the origonal bolts. problem solved.
also, if you take a piece of 1 1/4 square stock and pull the front three fender bolts out and beat it to the firewall and then drill and tap the holes and reinstall the fender bolts..... helps alot on the cars that have the square channel under the fender. Also taken 3 inch well pipe and slid it to the firewall and made some super bumper shocks and car was way nasty. Regal killed 12 cars out of 16 with head on track shots. Finished second because engine rotated down and drug the oil filter off and it finally locked up the engine. Bumper never budged ;D
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« Reply #111 on Nov 4, 2011, 6:44pm »
id use square stock for the dog bones and weld tabs on em so it doesnt roll down as easy instead of the angle iron.
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« Reply #112 on Nov 7, 2011, 5:10pm »
I dont know if this helps but i had a problem one time with a grand prix with the round top 3100 and it "seemed" to help.
I ran it twice and the first time i lost the radiator and it got hot and shut off the fuel. So the next demo we wired in a resister on the water temp sensor and looped it. Im not sure what size the resister was, i can look but we found a chart and got the one that would make the computer read the hottest temp all the time. then we hooked up the computer to read the temp reading and it read 200 degrees right after starting it up, the idle went up, not sure if it was that or what, but it ran great, since i lost the radiator we looped the radiator hoses and got about 15 minutes out of it. (I was made angry so the pedal was to the floor) It got hot and shut off but lasted long enough to get 6th out of 21. My starter must have been pulling alot of juice trying to start when it was hot because the battery started smoking, I didnt diagnose it after but i think worked because it started on the trailer after the show.
I got the resister at Radioshack, anyone else try this?
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« Reply #113 on Nov 7, 2011, 8:58pm »
ive heard of it but havent tried it. Can you find what size resister it was? I thought someone told me when their cool it measures like 18 and like 1800 when their hot?
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« Reply #114 on Nov 7, 2011, 9:23pm »
remind me about this when we are talking!! I can get a adjustable resistor from work!!
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« Reply #115 on Nov 7, 2011, 10:21pm »
I'll check when I go home this weekend.
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« Reply #116 on Nov 9, 2011, 10:53pm »
How are you guys building your trunks with window bars? notches etc. I like the results of it just dont want it to go wrong and being plowing dirt.
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« Reply #117 on Nov 18, 2011, 11:01pm »
On a 95 lumina with a 3100 does anyone know what sensors you can get rid of? and the car still run and can you buy headers that can be used without modifying the motor mounts? also what would be a good 80s and up bumper for on the front? any advice appreciated tanks.
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« Reply #118 on Nov 19, 2011, 8:01am »
i would use a vic bumper if it was me
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« Reply #119 on Nov 19, 2011, 8:36am »
Nov 4, 2011, 5:48am, mudmaster wrote:
for the question on the aluminum dogbone motor mounts..... just take a piece of angle iron and drill a hole in each end and bolt it to the side of the dogbone with the origonal bolts. problem solved.
also, if you take a piece of 1 1/4 square stock and pull the front three fender bolts out and beat it to the firewall and then drill and tap the holes and reinstall the fender bolts..... helps alot on the cars that have the square channel under the fender. Also taken 3 inch well pipe and slid it to the firewall and made some super bumper shocks and car was way nasty. Regal killed 12 cars out of 16 with head on track shots. Finished second because engine rotated down and drug the oil filter off and it finally locked up the engine. Bumper never budged ;D
did that on this beast...87 buick century with a 2.5 iron duke...2" square tube in place of the dogbone..also tied my stack into it..
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« Reply #120 on Nov 20, 2011, 10:35am »
Any one kno if you can use dec 3.1 headers in a 3100 with out clearance issues?
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« Reply #121 on Nov 21, 2011, 4:29pm »
talk fuel system to me ;D
how much psi do i need to run a 3.1? i assume the pump is internal? (i havent started working on the car yet)
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« Reply #122 on Nov 21, 2011, 10:35pm »
Nov 21, 2011, 4:29pm, Krazy12 wrote:
talk fuel system to me ;D
how much psi do i need to run a 3.1? i assume the pump is internal? (i havent started working on the car yet)
35-45 psi.
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« Reply #123 on Dec 8, 2011, 9:13am »
OK have read all 9 pages but no talk of how to keep the sub from kinking @ the bend??? Also have to try the relocating rear bumper trick have double notched tucked and pre bent n its still dropping also we have had issues with the rear of the sub dropping out from under the car but think we have that issue nipped in the butt
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« Reply #124 on Dec 8, 2011, 10:27am »
^^^^^Just ran my first w body on Sunday...2 door Regal. Half-a$$ed slapped together in 2 days. I only ran about 5-6 minutes...not long enough to hurt it. Looks like the oly way to keep the sub straight would be to plate it or stuff it...that's quite an arch. I relocated the rear bumper...onto the driver door Ran w/o a rear bumper, tucked, notched & pre bent....rear is going perfect. Crush boxes definitely have to go before it gets run again.
I ran it far from home. Kuckily, since it is pre ran, one area promoter is gonna let me chop it down to qualify as a compact. Looking at the rear suspension, it looks like a 4 inch chop will be pretty simple.
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« Reply #125 on Dec 8, 2011, 11:27am »
Oh yes. Crush boxes are a def they have to go. We've ran with and without rear bumpers notched pre bent. Just dunno if its ppl getting up higher than us or what the rears still.seem to drop had one going up on one side n down on the other.
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« Reply #126 on Dec 8, 2011, 1:17pm »
^^^^ The first car that I went back to back with was a Ford with the a$$ saggin real low. Maybe that helped.
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« Reply #127 on Dec 8, 2011, 4:29pm »
What does cutting out the crush boxes do exactly?
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« Reply #128 on Dec 8, 2011, 5:03pm »
It's a factory crumple zone. On these, they just happen to be sticking out at the end of the frame rails. I left them on, and they did exactly what they were supposed to.
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« Reply #129 on Dec 8, 2011, 5:30pm »
Ok i see now
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« Reply #130 on Dec 8, 2011, 7:18pm »
Yeah pritty easy to find them. Cut them off and hardnose. The bumper straight on the rails if your lucky you can also weld front of sub to bottom of the bumper.
Dec 8, 2011, 11:27am, cheater22x wrote:
Oh yes. Crush boxes are a def they have to go. We've ran with and without rear bumpers notched pre bent. Just dunno if its ppl getting up higher than us or what the rears still.seem to drop had one going up on one side n down on the other.
just a guess, but I'm going to take a stab and say drivers side down and passenger side up?
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« Reply #132 on Dec 9, 2011, 7:01am »
Dec 8, 2011, 10:24pm, dd32 wrote:
Dec 8, 2011, 11:27am, cheater22x wrote:
Oh yes. Crush boxes are a def they have to go. We've ran with and without rear bumpers notched pre bent. Just dunno if its ppl getting up higher than us or what the rears still.seem to drop had one going up on one side n down on the other.
just a guess, but I'm going to take a stab and say drivers side down and passenger side up?
LOL I'm gonna take a stab n say it's happened to you as well passenger side closed the notch couldent of had it go any better driver's. Side yeah. Not so hot. Folded @ the notch then took a hard turn south by The rear strut tower.
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« Reply #133 on Dec 9, 2011, 7:26am »
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« Reply #134 on Dec 9, 2011, 1:33pm »
Dec 9, 2011, 7:01am, cheater22x wrote:
Dec 8, 2011, 10:24pm, dd32 wrote:
just a guess, but I'm going to take a stab and say drivers side down and passenger side up?
LOL I'm gonna take a stab n say it's happened to you as well passenger side closed the notch couldent of had it go any better driver's. Side yeah. Not so hot. Folded @ the notch then took a hard turn south by The rear strut tower.
A soft rear bumper helps them roll in together if mounted high.
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« Reply #135 on Dec 9, 2011, 2:48pm »
The rears are easy to fix so they roll in even, open the trunk and take a look at how far back the drivers side wheel well sits compared to the pass side ( cause of the gas tank filler tube)
that's why the drivers side always goes to crap. Hope that helps ;D
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« Reply #136 on Dec 9, 2011, 3:04pm »
Yeah got a few thing to try on the next one. N stromi. Couldent of had any softer of a bumper only top half of it was there rest wasent rotted away. LOL. Hopefully the next comes out better. Just wish I could figure out how to keep the sub from kinking soo bad below the pullies.
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« Reply #137 on Dec 16, 2011, 4:56pm »
ive never had ours go below the pullies but we put a shocker mopar bumper shock in the frame with the allthread thru it and we take the pucks out and suck the sub tight and weld them together. my next one is running in january and im trying a pointy on the front
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« Reply #138 on Dec 17, 2011, 9:05am »
Ran 3 luminas now 13 times total between the
3, never had problem with driver side of butt end goin to heck, only had one front frame rail bend, and never bellied one out in butt. Also flattened my 76monte Carlo on the one that I bent frame on. To me these are the best and easiest car to build
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« Reply #139 on Dec 17, 2011, 9:24pm »
Dec 17, 2011, 9:05am, 18tcompact wrote:
Ran 3 luminas now 13 times total between the 3, never had problem with driver side of butt end goin to heck, only had one front frame rail bend, and never bellied one out in butt. Also flattened my 76monte Carlo on the one that I bent frame on. To me these are the best and easiest car to build
Yeah but you dont run any good shows. Most of your shows have 5 cars or less.
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« Reply #140 on Dec 18, 2011, 2:48pm »
Only 3 were under 10 cars.
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« Reply #141 on Dec 21, 2011, 6:35pm »
www.decheaders.com/shop/index.php....products_id=556
just want to make sure these will have plenty of clearance in a w body? before i spend the money
or how about the tri sq style?
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« Reply #142 on Dec 22, 2011, 7:43pm »
Got a sweet 89 buick LeSAbre today with the 3800..is this considered a W-body GM?
thanks
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« Reply #143 on Dec 22, 2011, 8:27pm »
Dec 22, 2011, 7:43pm, billybob911 wrote:
Got a sweet 89 buick LeSAbre today with the 3800..is this considered a W-body GM?
thanks
Close but closer to a celebrity as far as frame and radiator support design.
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« Reply #144 on Dec 23, 2011, 9:05am »
So, 99-04 oldsmobile alero's are W-bodies?? Looks like a lumina but a greater bend in the front k-frame.
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« Reply #145 on Dec 23, 2011, 3:59pm »
i think they are a big bodied car w/ a big cavalier frame also.
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« Reply #146 on Dec 23, 2011, 7:23pm »
My bad just looked it up. Alero's are built with the n-body platfrom. (cavalier's are built with the j-body platfrom) I still think when building my alero's. If I stick to a lumina build, they are going to be tuff. Guess we will see what the alero's are made of. LOL
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« Reply #147 on Dec 23, 2011, 8:25pm »
Dec 23, 2011, 7:23pm, soulose01x wrote:
My bad just looked it up. Alero's are built with the n-body platfrom. (cavalier's are built with the j-body platfrom) I still think when building my alero's. If I stick to a lumina build, they are going to be tuff. Guess we will see what the alero's are made of. LOL
all the drive train are aluminum , spidles brake super easy i have one im starting on soon its a 02
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« Reply #148 on Dec 24, 2011, 7:46pm »
I have a 2000 and a 2001. Both have the 3.4L. I've junked alot of the 2.4L alero's, grand am's and cavalier's. They are all JUNK!! So, I'm going to see what the 3.4L motor's are. I've ran the 96-01 lumina's and they have 3.1L's motor. Did very well with them. If I remember right the 3.1L is the same motor as the 3.4L. we will see
Dec 23, 2011, 8:25pm, pmmaster8 wrote:
Dec 23, 2011, 7:23pm, soulose01x wrote:
My bad just looked it up. Alero's are built with the n-body platfrom. (cavalier's are built with the j-body platfrom) I still think when building my alero's. If I stick to a lumina build, they are going to be tuff. Guess we will see what the alero's are made of. LOL
all the drive train are aluminum , spidles brake super easy i have one im starting on soon its a 02
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« Reply #149 on Dec 25, 2011, 8:29am »
i think id either trade the aleros in on some luminas or pull the subs and put a lumina sub in them.
Ive looked these cars over at the local junkyard and they dont look very impressive for how big the bodies are.
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« Reply #150 on Dec 25, 2011, 9:51am »
I've seen alot of them at the junkyards too. But I think with a bumper and some building they do ok. I'm not going to cry over $250 a piece. But, they will work untell I can get my hands on a lumina. I've ran a lumina the last two years. That's why I picked those alero's up to try.
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« Reply #151 on Dec 25, 2011, 11:33am »
Dec 8, 2011, 9:13am, cheater22x wrote:
OK have read all 9 pages but no talk of how to keep the sub from kinking @ the bend??? Also have to try the relocating rear bumper trick have double notched tucked and pre bent n its still dropping also we have had issues with the rear of the sub dropping out from under the car but think we have that issue nipped in the butt
For August, I'm going to try chaining the sub at the arch to the unibody rail & see what happens....same concept as chaining humps on a leaf car.
Tuck the trunk and move the rear bumper bar up five inches, by removing it and putting the bottom bolts in the top holes and drilling four new holes for the top bolts. This method works on all compacts because it puts all the pressure on the top of the frame, thus causing it to go up and in instead of down like they are designed. Notching or pre bending is not necessary if the bumper is relocated properly. also it works great with stock rules.
you have any pics? im not fully understanding how your doing this? i probably would have a better understanding if i had the car stripped but for the next month or 2 i plan to drive it.....
He can not put his bumper back on because it rusted off
js
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« Reply #153 on Dec 26, 2011, 2:12pm »
notch wedge and prebend the rear of a lumina. rolls tight and stays tough. my rules allow midsize bumpers only. i hardnose with a 80 seville bumper or a lincoln versales bumper. both hard to find. tires i run 205/75/15s and havent had a problem. i ran mine 4 times and every derby had 15 plus cars. 3 of them were almost all luminas. never lost axels or steering did break both rear control arms though. just welded them back together and went again. only had a radiator the first derby. it got scorching hot but always fired back up. last run i ran with 5 cylinders and lost a second about 3/4 of the way through. still pulled off 3rd. mine was a 91 euro with a 3.1 in it with 95000 actual miles. funnest car i ever ran.
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« Reply #154 on Dec 26, 2011, 2:19pm »
I tried last yr to get back into the big cars but they are to much crying whining and politics... I'll stick with the little cars and if they want some of these W bodies I run it against there promods I will just add more to my W body they all think we cheat em up anyways. ;D
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« Reply #155 on Dec 26, 2011, 2:21pm »
But when I do cheat one up it will be HTFO.
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« Reply #156 on Dec 26, 2011, 7:33pm »
Dec 25, 2011, 8:29am, hvyeqop69 wrote:
i think id either trade the aleros in on some luminas or pull the subs and put a lumina sub in them.
Ive looked these cars over at the local junkyard and they dont look very impressive for how big the bodies are.
They are not bad, just not as good as a w body.
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« Reply #157 on Dec 27, 2011, 9:27am »
finally got my pointy on mine
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« Reply #158 on Dec 27, 2011, 10:42am »
Holy chit Ducky that thing looks like it has a school bus pointy on the front... Hope it don't overheat from no air movement... Lol
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« Reply #159 on Dec 28, 2011, 8:20am »
Dec 27, 2011, 10:42am, 607ballzbe wrote:
Holy chit Ducky that thing looks like it has a school bus pointy on the front... Hope it don't overheat from no air movement... Lol
Way to much bumper tho. That car will snoot fast
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« Reply #160 on Dec 28, 2011, 10:09am »
Can u make the 3100 carb I've seen pics of the 3.1 but not the 3100 any tips on how idv appreciate it thanks
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« Reply #161 on Dec 28, 2011, 1:48pm »
Dec 28, 2011, 10:09am, widefrickenopen wrote:
Can u make the 3100 carb I've seen pics of the 3.1 but not the 3100 any tips on how idv appreciate it thanks
yes i did it i got pics pm me ur number
wesmash.proboards.com/
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« Reply #162 on Dec 28, 2011, 2:57pm »
Dec 28, 2011, 10:09am, widefrickenopen wrote:
Can u make the 3100 carb I've seen pics of the 3.1 but not the 3100 any tips on how idv appreciate it thanks
I hAvent done it to 3100, but it would be the same idea, and there is a dummy shaft with a distributor gear to run oil pump just like 3.1.
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« Reply #163 on Dec 28, 2011, 7:25pm »
Dec 28, 2011, 8:20am, 18tcompact wrote:
Dec 27, 2011, 10:42am, 607ballzbe wrote:
Holy chit Ducky that thing looks like it has a school bus pointy on the front... Hope it don't overheat from no air movement... Lol
Way to much bumper tho. That car will snoot fast
If done right the front will hold up to a pointy but most rules only allow certain things done but what I'm saying is with "STOCK" pieces and parts you can do it.
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« Reply #164 on Dec 28, 2011, 8:20pm »
with the rules i have it should hold up to alot but im planning on alot of wheel shots
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« Reply #165 on Dec 28, 2011, 8:25pm »
I know that will hold up
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« Reply #166 on Dec 29, 2011, 6:47am »
any one got a wiring diagram for push button start to bypass the key?
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« Reply #167 on Dec 29, 2011, 8:22pm »
o2 sensor needed? car cuts out above 4k now, after i took exhaust off i also stripped it all too so i dont know if it was o2 or some wires
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« Reply #168 on Dec 29, 2011, 8:29pm »
I always run the O2 sensors. First one installed in the exhaust and the second one not installed in the exhaust just zip tied up somewhere. This allowes the computer to adjust the lean/rich mixture and it thinks the cat is still there. I have heard of people running without them but I had no luck when I tried it myself.
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« Reply #169 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:10pm »
anyone doing this on a 3.1, or 3100?
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« Reply #170 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:16pm »
^^^^^I like it ALOT!!! Will be doing something quite similar this year to my 3.1. Have done it to a couple of efi cars, but not gm just yet.
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« Reply #171 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:36pm »
Ya actually just did it to my 2.5 lumina, i only needed wires that were under the hood
Pink wire and little pink/ black wire at firewall connection seem to be very important.....
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« Reply #172 on Dec 30, 2011, 8:21am »
3.1's are alot simpler, the 3100's have quite a few more wires left over when your done.
If i remember right 22 for the 3.1 and 43 on the 3100.
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« Reply #173 on Dec 30, 2011, 8:50am »
There is an easier way to do the 3100 so it's the same as the 3.1
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i have the same thing like it better then carbing it
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« Reply #175 on Dec 30, 2011, 11:27am »
i like my wireing better i have 4 wires set up just like a sbc
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« Reply #177 on Jan 9, 2012, 12:41am »
Any specific tips for a 96 cutlass supreme 2 door?
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« Reply #178 on Jan 9, 2012, 2:09am »
how much will the rocker panels effect the strength of the car if they are rotted? do they matter very much?
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« Reply #179 on Jan 9, 2012, 9:43am »
^^^^^The panel itself is cosmetic. The beef is in the support beam under the skin.
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« Reply #180 on Jan 9, 2012, 10:35am »
good to know, thanks a lot
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« Reply #181 on Jan 9, 2012, 10:41am »
That wiring harness looks awesome, but not 250 for one awesome
The rocker rust isn't a deal breaker in my eyes, but it makes it a royal pain to weld the bottoms of the doors shut. Everyone I've ran like it the doors split and tear bad on the bottoms.
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« Reply #182 on Jan 9, 2012, 11:24am »
Weld the doors from the inside ^^^^
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« Reply #183 on Jan 13, 2012, 3:03am »
this is funny stuff
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« Reply #184 on Jan 13, 2012, 3:04am »
Jan 9, 2012, 11:24am, Jull wrote:
Weld the doors from the inside ^^^^
some rules state not to, make sure first. I have welded them fromt he inside for a long time and plate on the outside. just make sure the rules don't say otherwise.
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« Reply #185 on Jan 13, 2012, 9:57am »
I thought about buying a new set of injectors for this year but ive changed my mind suddenly.
www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail....02521&ppt=C0024
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« Reply #186 on Jan 13, 2012, 10:07am »
Ouch!
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« Reply #187 on Jan 13, 2012, 10:26am »
and those are the cheap ones, id like to have the edelbrock ones even more.
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« Reply #188 on Jan 13, 2012, 10:30am »
That really sucks. My leftover Topeka car really needs at least a couple.
Wat was the "good" range on those again?
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« Reply #189 on Jan 13, 2012, 12:46pm »
12 and up. i always use old ones from a junkyard in mine. it would be nice to have a keeper motor w/ new ones though.
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« Reply #190 on Jan 13, 2012, 1:37pm »
Injectors from a 3300 are the same as 2.8/3.1 injectors( they are easier to get to and test if your at a junkyard)
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« Reply #191 on Jan 13, 2012, 6:10pm »
Jan 13, 2012, 12:46pm, hvyeqop69 wrote:
12 and up. i always use old ones from a junkyard in mine. it would be nice to have a keeper motor w/ new ones though.
Yes, it would. That is my goal with this one. Thanks.
We punched a hole in the oil filter on a different 3.1 this past October and ruined it. That one should have everything I need to make this one run good.
Jan 13, 2012, 1:37pm, runinoutofgas wrote:
Injectors from a 3300 are the same as 2.8/3.1 injectors( they are easier to get to and test if your at a junkyard)
Good to know. I have a couple of 3100 sitting around with junk heads. Thanks
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« Reply #192 on Jan 16, 2012, 11:41pm »
Jan 9, 2012, 11:24am, Jull wrote:
Weld the doors from the inside ^^^^
its a chain and bang derby no welding except for drivers door thats why i was asking about the rockers
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« Reply #193 on Jan 16, 2012, 11:49pm »
In that case, I wouldn't mind rusty rockers. I once derbied an Accord with no floorpans. That makes it a real PIA to attach the battery box properly.
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« Reply #194 on Jan 17, 2012, 12:02am »
I'm not all that concerned I'm about 99% sure the motor will give way before the car is trashed. it has a 3.8. the oil pump its about out and it pours antifreeze out of the plenum. so ya its a pretty good candidate for what I'm gonna use it for.
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« Reply #195 on Jan 19, 2012, 7:05pm »
walden 7
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« Reply #196 on Jan 21, 2012, 11:00pm »
Any extras on a chevy lumina police car other than bigger brakes, digital dash, a spotlight and a massive sway bar?
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« Reply #197 on Jan 21, 2012, 11:02pm »
Possible bigger springs and struts...
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« Reply #198 on Jan 22, 2012, 10:18am »
so is a 1998 monte just as good as a lumina
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« Reply #199 on Jan 22, 2012, 10:56am »
Jan 21, 2012, 11:00pm, hvyeqop69 wrote:
Any extras on a chevy lumina police car other than bigger brakes, digital dash, a spotlight and a massive sway bar?
the sway bar was already big, they get bigger?
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« Reply #200 on Jan 22, 2012, 3:53pm »
Jan 22, 2012, 10:18am, clintonqs wrote:
so is a 1998 monte just as good as a lumina
same a newer lumina
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« Reply #201 on Jan 22, 2012, 4:59pm »
Jan 22, 2012, 10:56am, dd32 wrote:
Jan 21, 2012, 11:00pm, hvyeqop69 wrote:
Any extras on a chevy lumina police car other than bigger brakes, digital dash, a spotlight and a massive sway bar?
the sway bar was already big, they get bigger?
yeah matches a 5.0 foxbody sway bar on this car.
Ill check the springs and struts on it.
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« Reply #202 on Jan 23, 2012, 5:41pm »
What can i do to get my lumina to fit a 14" rim would i have a problem fitting 27" skid steer tires
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« Reply #203 on Jan 25, 2012, 6:50pm »
Hey guys I have a 96 cutlass supreme with the 3100 and im cutting the exhaust off. Im wondering if the motor will still run if i cut the wires going to the O2 sensor? Thanks
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« Reply #204 on Jan 25, 2012, 7:58pm »
Jan 25, 2012, 6:50pm, sledneck102 wrote:
Hey guys I have a 96 cutlass supreme with the 3100 and im cutting the exhaust off. Im wondering if the motor will still run if i cut the wires going to the O2 sensor? Thanks
yess
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« Reply #205 on Jan 25, 2012, 8:16pm »
okay thank you! on the other cars ive had the O2 sensors have been up further so they werent an issue but i just thought id double check before i cut anything.
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« Reply #206 on Jan 25, 2012, 10:19pm »
Whats the best way to prevent axles from breaking or coming out on a round lumina can you weld then in or somthing?
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« Reply #207 on Jan 26, 2012, 7:03am »
Jan 25, 2012, 10:19pm, drcompact wrote:
Whats the best way to prevent axles from breaking or coming out on a round lumina can you weld then in or somthing?
weld some plates over the inner cups and the outer good luck haven't figured much out but mounting the motor solid.
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« Reply #208 on Jan 26, 2012, 9:23am »
Dont go bananas welding the suspension up high, i personally don't make it solid myself
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« Reply #209 on Jan 26, 2012, 10:12pm »
Jan 23, 2012, 5:41pm, racer35 wrote:
What can i do to get my lumina to fit a 14" rim would i have a problem fitting 27" skid steer tires
Anyone know an easier way other than switching struts out on newer luminas to be able to use 14" tires and wheels?
It looks about the same in the rear with one more run on it after this, front on the other hand not so hot lol.
9 heats total on this rig, she has got one more good one left in the front. butt is rock hard but all used up, Its kinda stopped moving but a few hay makers would do her in lol..
that chrome bumper on the back of that blue one, is that a ltd2 front bumper?
Yes that be what it is, in my eyes don't need nothing special back there just alittle something to help roll her up. Good place for the cheesy bumpers
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« Reply #110 on Nov 4, 2011, 5:48am »
for the question on the aluminum dogbone motor mounts..... just take a piece of angle iron and drill a hole in each end and bolt it to the side of the dogbone with the origonal bolts. problem solved.
also, if you take a piece of 1 1/4 square stock and pull the front three fender bolts out and beat it to the firewall and then drill and tap the holes and reinstall the fender bolts..... helps alot on the cars that have the square channel under the fender. Also taken 3 inch well pipe and slid it to the firewall and made some super bumper shocks and car was way nasty. Regal killed 12 cars out of 16 with head on track shots. Finished second because engine rotated down and drug the oil filter off and it finally locked up the engine. Bumper never budged ;D
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« Reply #111 on Nov 4, 2011, 6:44pm »
id use square stock for the dog bones and weld tabs on em so it doesnt roll down as easy instead of the angle iron.
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« Reply #112 on Nov 7, 2011, 5:10pm »
I dont know if this helps but i had a problem one time with a grand prix with the round top 3100 and it "seemed" to help.
I ran it twice and the first time i lost the radiator and it got hot and shut off the fuel. So the next demo we wired in a resister on the water temp sensor and looped it. Im not sure what size the resister was, i can look but we found a chart and got the one that would make the computer read the hottest temp all the time. then we hooked up the computer to read the temp reading and it read 200 degrees right after starting it up, the idle went up, not sure if it was that or what, but it ran great, since i lost the radiator we looped the radiator hoses and got about 15 minutes out of it. (I was made angry so the pedal was to the floor) It got hot and shut off but lasted long enough to get 6th out of 21. My starter must have been pulling alot of juice trying to start when it was hot because the battery started smoking, I didnt diagnose it after but i think worked because it started on the trailer after the show.
I got the resister at Radioshack, anyone else try this?
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« Reply #113 on Nov 7, 2011, 8:58pm »
ive heard of it but havent tried it. Can you find what size resister it was? I thought someone told me when their cool it measures like 18 and like 1800 when their hot?
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« Reply #114 on Nov 7, 2011, 9:23pm »
remind me about this when we are talking!! I can get a adjustable resistor from work!!
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« Reply #115 on Nov 7, 2011, 10:21pm »
I'll check when I go home this weekend.
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« Reply #116 on Nov 9, 2011, 10:53pm »
How are you guys building your trunks with window bars? notches etc. I like the results of it just dont want it to go wrong and being plowing dirt.
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« Reply #117 on Nov 18, 2011, 11:01pm »
On a 95 lumina with a 3100 does anyone know what sensors you can get rid of? and the car still run and can you buy headers that can be used without modifying the motor mounts? also what would be a good 80s and up bumper for on the front? any advice appreciated tanks.
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« Reply #118 on Nov 19, 2011, 8:01am »
i would use a vic bumper if it was me
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« Reply #119 on Nov 19, 2011, 8:36am »
Nov 4, 2011, 5:48am, mudmaster wrote:
for the question on the aluminum dogbone motor mounts..... just take a piece of angle iron and drill a hole in each end and bolt it to the side of the dogbone with the origonal bolts. problem solved.
also, if you take a piece of 1 1/4 square stock and pull the front three fender bolts out and beat it to the firewall and then drill and tap the holes and reinstall the fender bolts..... helps alot on the cars that have the square channel under the fender. Also taken 3 inch well pipe and slid it to the firewall and made some super bumper shocks and car was way nasty. Regal killed 12 cars out of 16 with head on track shots. Finished second because engine rotated down and drug the oil filter off and it finally locked up the engine. Bumper never budged ;D
did that on this beast...87 buick century with a 2.5 iron duke...2" square tube in place of the dogbone..also tied my stack into it..
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« Reply #120 on Nov 20, 2011, 10:35am »
Any one kno if you can use dec 3.1 headers in a 3100 with out clearance issues?
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« Reply #121 on Nov 21, 2011, 4:29pm »
talk fuel system to me ;D
how much psi do i need to run a 3.1? i assume the pump is internal? (i havent started working on the car yet)
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« Reply #122 on Nov 21, 2011, 10:35pm »
Nov 21, 2011, 4:29pm, Krazy12 wrote:
talk fuel system to me ;D
how much psi do i need to run a 3.1? i assume the pump is internal? (i havent started working on the car yet)
35-45 psi.
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« Reply #123 on Dec 8, 2011, 9:13am »
OK have read all 9 pages but no talk of how to keep the sub from kinking @ the bend??? Also have to try the relocating rear bumper trick have double notched tucked and pre bent n its still dropping also we have had issues with the rear of the sub dropping out from under the car but think we have that issue nipped in the butt
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« Reply #124 on Dec 8, 2011, 10:27am »
^^^^^Just ran my first w body on Sunday...2 door Regal. Half-a$$ed slapped together in 2 days. I only ran about 5-6 minutes...not long enough to hurt it. Looks like the oly way to keep the sub straight would be to plate it or stuff it...that's quite an arch. I relocated the rear bumper...onto the driver door Ran w/o a rear bumper, tucked, notched & pre bent....rear is going perfect. Crush boxes definitely have to go before it gets run again.
I ran it far from home. Kuckily, since it is pre ran, one area promoter is gonna let me chop it down to qualify as a compact. Looking at the rear suspension, it looks like a 4 inch chop will be pretty simple.
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« Reply #125 on Dec 8, 2011, 11:27am »
Oh yes. Crush boxes are a def they have to go. We've ran with and without rear bumpers notched pre bent. Just dunno if its ppl getting up higher than us or what the rears still.seem to drop had one going up on one side n down on the other.
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« Reply #126 on Dec 8, 2011, 1:17pm »
^^^^ The first car that I went back to back with was a Ford with the a$$ saggin real low. Maybe that helped.
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« Reply #127 on Dec 8, 2011, 4:29pm »
What does cutting out the crush boxes do exactly?
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« Reply #128 on Dec 8, 2011, 5:03pm »
It's a factory crumple zone. On these, they just happen to be sticking out at the end of the frame rails. I left them on, and they did exactly what they were supposed to.
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« Reply #129 on Dec 8, 2011, 5:30pm »
Ok i see now
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« Reply #130 on Dec 8, 2011, 7:18pm »
Yeah pritty easy to find them. Cut them off and hardnose. The bumper straight on the rails if your lucky you can also weld front of sub to bottom of the bumper.
Dec 8, 2011, 11:27am, cheater22x wrote:
Oh yes. Crush boxes are a def they have to go. We've ran with and without rear bumpers notched pre bent. Just dunno if its ppl getting up higher than us or what the rears still.seem to drop had one going up on one side n down on the other.
just a guess, but I'm going to take a stab and say drivers side down and passenger side up?
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« Reply #132 on Dec 9, 2011, 7:01am »
Dec 8, 2011, 10:24pm, dd32 wrote:
Dec 8, 2011, 11:27am, cheater22x wrote:
Oh yes. Crush boxes are a def they have to go. We've ran with and without rear bumpers notched pre bent. Just dunno if its ppl getting up higher than us or what the rears still.seem to drop had one going up on one side n down on the other.
just a guess, but I'm going to take a stab and say drivers side down and passenger side up?
LOL I'm gonna take a stab n say it's happened to you as well passenger side closed the notch couldent of had it go any better driver's. Side yeah. Not so hot. Folded @ the notch then took a hard turn south by The rear strut tower.
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« Reply #133 on Dec 9, 2011, 7:26am »
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« Reply #134 on Dec 9, 2011, 1:33pm »
Dec 9, 2011, 7:01am, cheater22x wrote:
Dec 8, 2011, 10:24pm, dd32 wrote:
just a guess, but I'm going to take a stab and say drivers side down and passenger side up?
LOL I'm gonna take a stab n say it's happened to you as well passenger side closed the notch couldent of had it go any better driver's. Side yeah. Not so hot. Folded @ the notch then took a hard turn south by The rear strut tower.
A soft rear bumper helps them roll in together if mounted high.
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« Reply #135 on Dec 9, 2011, 2:48pm »
The rears are easy to fix so they roll in even, open the trunk and take a look at how far back the drivers side wheel well sits compared to the pass side ( cause of the gas tank filler tube)
that's why the drivers side always goes to crap. Hope that helps ;DRe: GM W-Body tips and tricks
« Reply #136 on Dec 9, 2011, 3:04pm »
Yeah got a few thing to try on the next one. N stromi. Couldent of had any softer of a bumper only top half of it was there rest wasent rotted away. LOL. Hopefully the next comes out better. Just wish I could figure out how to keep the sub from kinking soo bad below the pullies.
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« Reply #137 on Dec 16, 2011, 4:56pm »
ive never had ours go below the pullies but we put a shocker mopar bumper shock in the frame with the allthread thru it and we take the pucks out and suck the sub tight and weld them together. my next one is running in january and im trying a pointy on the front
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« Reply #138 on Dec 17, 2011, 9:05am »
Ran 3 luminas now 13 times total between the
3, never had problem with driver side of butt end goin to heck, only had one front frame rail bend, and never bellied one out in butt. Also flattened my 76monte Carlo on the one that I bent frame on. To me these are the best and easiest car to buildRe: GM W-Body tips and tricks
« Reply #139 on Dec 17, 2011, 9:24pm »
Dec 17, 2011, 9:05am, 18tcompact wrote:
Ran 3 luminas now 13 times total between the
3, never had problem with driver side of butt end goin to heck, only had one front frame rail bend, and never bellied one out in butt. Also flattened my 76monte Carlo on the one that I bent frame on. To me these are the best and easiest car to buildYeah but you dont run any good shows. Most of your shows have 5 cars or less.
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« Reply #140 on Dec 18, 2011, 2:48pm »
Only 3 were under 10 cars.
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« Reply #141 on Dec 21, 2011, 6:35pm »
www.decheaders.com/shop/index.php....products_id=556
just want to make sure these will have plenty of clearance in a w body? before i spend the money
or how about the tri sq style?
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« Reply #142 on Dec 22, 2011, 7:43pm »
Got a sweet 89 buick LeSAbre today with the 3800..is this considered a W-body GM?
thanks
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« Reply #143 on Dec 22, 2011, 8:27pm »
Dec 22, 2011, 7:43pm, billybob911 wrote:
Got a sweet 89 buick LeSAbre today with the 3800..is this considered a W-body GM?
thanks
Close but closer to a celebrity as far as frame and radiator support design.
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« Reply #144 on Dec 23, 2011, 9:05am »
So, 99-04 oldsmobile alero's are W-bodies?? Looks like a lumina but a greater bend in the front k-frame.
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« Reply #145 on Dec 23, 2011, 3:59pm »
i think they are a big bodied car w/ a big cavalier frame also.
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« Reply #146 on Dec 23, 2011, 7:23pm »
My bad just looked it up. Alero's are built with the n-body platfrom. (cavalier's are built with the j-body platfrom) I still think when building my alero's. If I stick to a lumina build, they are going to be tuff. Guess we will see what the alero's are made of. LOLRe: GM W-Body tips and tricks
« Reply #147 on Dec 23, 2011, 8:25pm »
Dec 23, 2011, 7:23pm, soulose01x wrote:
My bad just looked it up. Alero's are built with the n-body platfrom. (cavalier's are built with the j-body platfrom) I still think when building my alero's. If I stick to a lumina build, they are going to be tuff. Guess we will see what the alero's are made of. LOLall the drive train are aluminum , spidles brake super easy i have one im starting on soon its a 02
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« Reply #148 on Dec 24, 2011, 7:46pm »
I have a 2000 and a 2001. Both have the 3.4L. I've junked alot of the 2.4L alero's, grand am's and cavalier's. They are all JUNK!! So, I'm going to see what the 3.4L motor's are. I've ran the 96-01 lumina's and they have 3.1L's motor. Did very well with them. If I remember right the 3.1L is the same motor as the 3.4L. we will see
Dec 23, 2011, 8:25pm, pmmaster8 wrote:
Dec 23, 2011, 7:23pm, soulose01x wrote:
My bad just looked it up. Alero's are built with the n-body platfrom. (cavalier's are built with the j-body platfrom) I still think when building my alero's. If I stick to a lumina build, they are going to be tuff. Guess we will see what the alero's are made of. LOLall the drive train are aluminum , spidles brake super easy i have one im starting on soon its a 02
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« Reply #149 on Dec 25, 2011, 8:29am »
i think id either trade the aleros in on some luminas or pull the subs and put a lumina sub in them.
Ive looked these cars over at the local junkyard and they dont look very impressive for how big the bodies are.
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« Reply #150 on Dec 25, 2011, 9:51am »
I've seen alot of them at the junkyards too. But I think with a bumper and some building they do ok. I'm not going to cry over $250 a piece. But, they will work untell I can get my hands on a lumina. I've ran a lumina the last two years. That's why I picked those alero's up to try.Re: GM W-Body tips and tricks
« Reply #151 on Dec 25, 2011, 11:33am »
Dec 8, 2011, 9:13am, cheater22x wrote:
OK have read all 9 pages but no talk of how to keep the sub from kinking @ the bend??? Also have to try the relocating rear bumper trick have double notched tucked and pre bent n its still dropping also we have had issues with the rear of the sub dropping out from under the car but think we have that issue nipped in the butt
For August, I'm going to try chaining the sub at the arch to the unibody rail & see what happens....same concept as chaining humps on a leaf car.
Tuck the trunk and move the rear bumper bar up five inches, by removing it and putting the bottom bolts in the top holes and drilling four new holes for the top bolts. This method works on all compacts because it puts all the pressure on the top of the frame, thus causing it to go up and in instead of down like they are designed. Notching or pre bending is not necessary if the bumper is relocated properly. also it works great with stock rules.
you have any pics? im not fully understanding how your doing this? i probably would have a better understanding if i had the car stripped but for the next month or 2 i plan to drive it.....
He can not put his bumper back on because it rusted off
js
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« Reply #153 on Dec 26, 2011, 2:12pm »
notch wedge and prebend the rear of a lumina. rolls tight and stays tough. my rules allow midsize bumpers only. i hardnose with a 80 seville bumper or a lincoln versales bumper. both hard to find. tires i run 205/75/15s and havent had a problem. i ran mine 4 times and every derby had 15 plus cars. 3 of them were almost all luminas. never lost axels or steering did break both rear control arms though. just welded them back together and went again. only had a radiator the first derby. it got scorching hot but always fired back up. last run i ran with 5 cylinders and lost a second about 3/4 of the way through. still pulled off 3rd. mine was a 91 euro with a 3.1 in it with 95000 actual miles. funnest car i ever ran.
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« Reply #154 on Dec 26, 2011, 2:19pm »
I tried last yr to get back into the big cars but they are to much crying whining and politics... I'll stick with the little cars and if they want some of these W bodies I run it against there promods I will just add more to my W body they all think we cheat em up anyways. ;D
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« Reply #155 on Dec 26, 2011, 2:21pm »
But when I do cheat one up it will be HTFO.
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« Reply #156 on Dec 26, 2011, 7:33pm »
Dec 25, 2011, 8:29am, hvyeqop69 wrote:
i think id either trade the aleros in on some luminas or pull the subs and put a lumina sub in them.
Ive looked these cars over at the local junkyard and they dont look very impressive for how big the bodies are.
They are not bad, just not as good as a w body.
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« Reply #157 on Dec 27, 2011, 9:27am »
finally got my pointy on mine
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« Reply #158 on Dec 27, 2011, 10:42am »
Holy chit Ducky that thing looks like it has a school bus pointy on the front... Hope it don't overheat from no air movement... Lol
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« Reply #159 on Dec 28, 2011, 8:20am »
Dec 27, 2011, 10:42am, 607ballzbe wrote:
Holy chit Ducky that thing looks like it has a school bus pointy on the front... Hope it don't overheat from no air movement... Lol
Way to much bumper tho. That car will snoot fast
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« Reply #160 on Dec 28, 2011, 10:09am »
Can u make the 3100 carb I've seen pics of the 3.1 but not the 3100 any tips on how idv appreciate it thanks
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« Reply #161 on Dec 28, 2011, 1:48pm »
Dec 28, 2011, 10:09am, widefrickenopen wrote:
Can u make the 3100 carb I've seen pics of the 3.1 but not the 3100 any tips on how idv appreciate it thanks
yes i did it i got pics pm me ur number
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« Reply #162 on Dec 28, 2011, 2:57pm »
Dec 28, 2011, 10:09am, widefrickenopen wrote:
Can u make the 3100 carb I've seen pics of the 3.1 but not the 3100 any tips on how idv appreciate it thanks
I hAvent done it to 3100, but it would be the same idea, and there is a dummy shaft with a distributor gear to run oil pump just like 3.1.
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« Reply #163 on Dec 28, 2011, 7:25pm »
Dec 28, 2011, 8:20am, 18tcompact wrote:
Dec 27, 2011, 10:42am, 607ballzbe wrote:
Holy chit Ducky that thing looks like it has a school bus pointy on the front... Hope it don't overheat from no air movement... Lol
Way to much bumper tho. That car will snoot fast
If done right the front will hold up to a pointy but most rules only allow certain things done but what I'm saying is with "STOCK" pieces and parts you can do it.
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« Reply #164 on Dec 28, 2011, 8:20pm »
with the rules i have it should hold up to alot but im planning on alot of wheel shots
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« Reply #165 on Dec 28, 2011, 8:25pm »
I know that will hold up
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« Reply #166 on Dec 29, 2011, 6:47am »
any one got a wiring diagram for push button start to bypass the key?
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« Reply #167 on Dec 29, 2011, 8:22pm »
o2 sensor needed? car cuts out above 4k now, after i took exhaust off i also stripped it all too so i dont know if it was o2 or some wires
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« Reply #168 on Dec 29, 2011, 8:29pm »
I always run the O2 sensors. First one installed in the exhaust and the second one not installed in the exhaust just zip tied up somewhere. This allowes the computer to adjust the lean/rich mixture and it thinks the cat is still there. I have heard of people running without them but I had no luck when I tried it myself.
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« Reply #169 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:10pm »
anyone doing this on a 3.1, or 3100?
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« Reply #170 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:16pm »
^^^^^I like it ALOT!!! Will be doing something quite similar this year to my 3.1. Have done it to a couple of efi cars, but not gm just yet.
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« Reply #171 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:36pm »
Ya actually just did it to my 2.5 lumina, i only needed wires that were under the hood
Pink wire and little pink/ black wire at firewall connection seem to be very important.....
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« Reply #172 on Dec 30, 2011, 8:21am »
3.1's are alot simpler, the 3100's have quite a few more wires left over when your done.
If i remember right 22 for the 3.1 and 43 on the 3100.
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« Reply #173 on Dec 30, 2011, 8:50am »
There is an easier way to do the 3100 so it's the same as the 3.1
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i have the same thing like it better then carbing it
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« Reply #175 on Dec 30, 2011, 11:27am »
i like my wireing better i have 4 wires set up just like a sbc
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« Reply #177 on Jan 9, 2012, 12:41am »
Any specific tips for a 96 cutlass supreme 2 door?
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« Reply #178 on Jan 9, 2012, 2:09am »
how much will the rocker panels effect the strength of the car if they are rotted? do they matter very much?
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« Reply #179 on Jan 9, 2012, 9:43am »
^^^^^The panel itself is cosmetic. The beef is in the support beam under the skin.
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« Reply #180 on Jan 9, 2012, 10:35am »
good to know, thanks a lot
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« Reply #181 on Jan 9, 2012, 10:41am »
That wiring harness looks awesome, but not 250 for one awesome
The rocker rust isn't a deal breaker in my eyes, but it makes it a royal pain to weld the bottoms of the doors shut. Everyone I've ran like it the doors split and tear bad on the bottoms.
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« Reply #182 on Jan 9, 2012, 11:24am »
Weld the doors from the inside ^^^^
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« Reply #183 on Jan 13, 2012, 3:03am »
this is funny stuff
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« Reply #184 on Jan 13, 2012, 3:04am »
Jan 9, 2012, 11:24am, Jull wrote:
Weld the doors from the inside ^^^^
some rules state not to, make sure first. I have welded them fromt he inside for a long time and plate on the outside. just make sure the rules don't say otherwise.
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« Reply #185 on Jan 13, 2012, 9:57am »
I thought about buying a new set of injectors for this year but ive changed my mind suddenly.
www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail....02521&ppt=C0024
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« Reply #186 on Jan 13, 2012, 10:07am »
Ouch!
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« Reply #187 on Jan 13, 2012, 10:26am »
and those are the cheap ones, id like to have the edelbrock ones even more.
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« Reply #188 on Jan 13, 2012, 10:30am »
That really sucks. My leftover Topeka car really needs at least a couple.
Wat was the "good" range on those again?
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« Reply #189 on Jan 13, 2012, 12:46pm »
12 and up. i always use old ones from a junkyard in mine. it would be nice to have a keeper motor w/ new ones though.
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« Reply #190 on Jan 13, 2012, 1:37pm »
Injectors from a 3300 are the same as 2.8/3.1 injectors( they are easier to get to and test if your at a junkyard)
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« Reply #191 on Jan 13, 2012, 6:10pm »
Jan 13, 2012, 12:46pm, hvyeqop69 wrote:
12 and up. i always use old ones from a junkyard in mine. it would be nice to have a keeper motor w/ new ones though.
Yes, it would. That is my goal with this one. Thanks.
We punched a hole in the oil filter on a different 3.1 this past October and ruined it. That one should have everything I need to make this one run good.
Jan 13, 2012, 1:37pm, runinoutofgas wrote:
Injectors from a 3300 are the same as 2.8/3.1 injectors( they are easier to get to and test if your at a junkyard)
Good to know. I have a couple of 3100 sitting around with junk heads. Thanks
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« Reply #192 on Jan 16, 2012, 11:41pm »
Jan 9, 2012, 11:24am, Jull wrote:
Weld the doors from the inside ^^^^
its a chain and bang derby no welding except for drivers door thats why i was asking about the rockers
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« Reply #193 on Jan 16, 2012, 11:49pm »
In that case, I wouldn't mind rusty rockers. I once derbied an Accord with no floorpans. That makes it a real PIA to attach the battery box properly.
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« Reply #194 on Jan 17, 2012, 12:02am »
I'm not all that concerned I'm about 99% sure the motor will give way before the car is trashed. it has a 3.8. the oil pump its about out and it pours antifreeze out of the plenum. so ya its a pretty good candidate for what I'm gonna use it for.
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« Reply #195 on Jan 19, 2012, 7:05pm »
walden 7
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« Reply #196 on Jan 21, 2012, 11:00pm »
Any extras on a chevy lumina police car other than bigger brakes, digital dash, a spotlight and a massive sway bar?
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« Reply #197 on Jan 21, 2012, 11:02pm »
Possible bigger springs and struts...
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« Reply #198 on Jan 22, 2012, 10:18am »
so is a 1998 monte just as good as a lumina
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« Reply #199 on Jan 22, 2012, 10:56am »
Jan 21, 2012, 11:00pm, hvyeqop69 wrote:
Any extras on a chevy lumina police car other than bigger brakes, digital dash, a spotlight and a massive sway bar?
the sway bar was already big, they get bigger?
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« Reply #200 on Jan 22, 2012, 3:53pm »
Jan 22, 2012, 10:18am, clintonqs wrote:
so is a 1998 monte just as good as a lumina
same a newer lumina
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« Reply #201 on Jan 22, 2012, 4:59pm »
Jan 22, 2012, 10:56am, dd32 wrote:
Jan 21, 2012, 11:00pm, hvyeqop69 wrote:
Any extras on a chevy lumina police car other than bigger brakes, digital dash, a spotlight and a massive sway bar?
the sway bar was already big, they get bigger?
yeah matches a 5.0 foxbody sway bar on this car.
Ill check the springs and struts on it.
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« Reply #202 on Jan 23, 2012, 5:41pm »
What can i do to get my lumina to fit a 14" rim would i have a problem fitting 27" skid steer tires
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« Reply #203 on Jan 25, 2012, 6:50pm »
Hey guys I have a 96 cutlass supreme with the 3100 and im cutting the exhaust off. Im wondering if the motor will still run if i cut the wires going to the O2 sensor? Thanks
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« Reply #204 on Jan 25, 2012, 7:58pm »
Jan 25, 2012, 6:50pm, sledneck102 wrote:
Hey guys I have a 96 cutlass supreme with the 3100 and im cutting the exhaust off. Im wondering if the motor will still run if i cut the wires going to the O2 sensor? Thanks
yess
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« Reply #205 on Jan 25, 2012, 8:16pm »
okay thank you! on the other cars ive had the O2 sensors have been up further so they werent an issue but i just thought id double check before i cut anything.
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« Reply #206 on Jan 25, 2012, 10:19pm »
Whats the best way to prevent axles from breaking or coming out on a round lumina can you weld then in or somthing?
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« Reply #207 on Jan 26, 2012, 7:03am »
Jan 25, 2012, 10:19pm, drcompact wrote:
Whats the best way to prevent axles from breaking or coming out on a round lumina can you weld then in or somthing?
weld some plates over the inner cups and the outer good luck haven't figured much out but mounting the motor solid.
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« Reply #208 on Jan 26, 2012, 9:23am »
Dont go bananas welding the suspension up high, i personally don't make it solid myself
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« Reply #209 on Jan 26, 2012, 10:12pm »
Jan 23, 2012, 5:41pm, racer35 wrote:
What can i do to get my lumina to fit a 14" rim would i have a problem fitting 27" skid steer tires
Anyone know an easier way other than switching struts out on newer luminas to be able to use 14" tires and wheels?
and 2x has a carbed 2.0
