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Post by newport131 on Feb 29, 2012 21:53:50 GMT -5
Spring Derby in Albert Lea Just want to see how much interest there would be in a derby like this in Albert Lea. We were looking into doing a derby in the Spring of 2013 (May 3rd and 4th). What do you think? The classes & payout would be like this. Full size with 80's cars 1. 5000.00 2. 3000.00 3. 1800.00 4. 1300.00 5. 800.00 6. 500.00 7. 350.00 8. 175.00 Trucks 1. 1500.00 2. 800.00 3. 500.00 4. 300.00 5. 200.00 6. 150.00 7. 100.00 8. 75.00 80's Chain Class 1. 1500.00 2. 800.00 3. 500.00 4. 300.00 5. 200.00 6. 150.00 7. 100.00 8. 75.00 The entry fee for the full size class would be 175.00 pre entered & 250.00 after a deadline date to be determined. The entry fee for the trucks & the 80's chain class would be 100.00 pre entered & 175.00 after a deadline date to be determined. So let us know what you think. ALL PRIZE MONEY WILL BE GUARANTEED !!!
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Post by newport131 on Feb 29, 2012 21:54:10 GMT -5
General Old Iron rules: All vehicles must have a roof sign, Minimum 15" x 15", Maximum 24" x 24", contrasting colors. --These may not be positioned in such a way as to strengthen the car. Official’s decision is final. - No Imperials, any year, Imperial sub frames, Ambulances, Hearses or limousines allowed. - No re-stubbing of frames. - All bodies must be mounted on stock OEM frames for that year and make of car. - NO PAINTING, BUFFING, OILING OR UNDERCOATING OF FRAMES. THESE CARS WILL NOT BE INSPECTED OR ALLOWED TO COMPETE. - Driver must wear helmet, seat belt and eye protection at all times. - All vehicles must have a fire extinguisher mounted within the drivers reach, inside the car. - All Drivers must pick up trophies, earnings and all goodie bag items at the completion of the event, or forfeit them. They will not be available after that date. - These are not suggestions. This is NOT a menu. This is what is allowed as far as preparation of the car. Please do not try to read anything more into these rules. “THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO TO PREPARE YOUR CAR.” COMPETITION RULES: - Drivers must remain in the vehicle with helmet, seatbelt and eye protection on until notified by an official that it is safe to exit the vehicle. - Driver’s door hits are illegal. If the hit is deemed by the official to be careless or intentional, you will be disqualified. If you use your driver’s door as a defense, we will not enforce the rules. If you use the door defense repeatedly you will be disqualified. - No hot rodding in the pits. Keep it at an idle. - Any open door will be cause disqualification, you are allowed one fire, second fire will be cause for disqualification. You may return in later rounds. - Sandbagging is not tolerated and will be strictly enforced. Locking up the brakes prior to a hit for anything other than a driver’s door will be a cause for disqualification. The fans pay to see a show, put one on for them! - You must make AGGRESSIVE HIT every 60 seconds. You will not be given any warnings; you will just be timed out. - You will be given ample time for restarts. We do not use the clock exclusively. We try to work with you if you are hung up. Hitters get more time than sandbaggers. - this is not a team event; team driving will not be tolerated. - THERE IS NO ALCOHOL IN THE PITS. This includes pit crews. If you or ANY of your crew is caught with alcohol, you will be disqualified. - All cars are subject to a post race inspection before any prize money is awarded. - You must be a driver to protest, the fee is $250 and you must have cash in hand. This protest must take place immediately at the conclusion of the feature event. The protesting driver must have competed in the same class as the driver he is protesting. - Any questions, CALL FIRST. Don’t assume anything. The Officials decision is final. CAR BUILDING GUIDELINES Car Building Questions? Matt Ertman 507-236-9717
GENERAL PREPARATION: - All glass, plastic and pot metal must be removed. Nothing may remain in the bottoms of the trunk or doors. - All outer hardware must be removed - door handles, mirrors, chrome, moldings, screws, fiberglass, etc. No added weight to any car. - Rear seats in all cars and all decking in station wagons must be removed. - Front seats must be securely bolted to the floor, however, these bolts may NOT go thru the frame! You must have a functioning seat belt. - All flammable materials must be removed from the car other than safety padding and the driver’s seat. - No sedagon or wedge cars are allowed. CAGES & DOOR BARS: - You may use channel or tubing up to 6" for the door bars. Total length is not to exceed 60". This bar may not be more than 18" behind the center post on 4 door cars and 10" behind the door seam on 2 door cars - no exceptions. - Dash bar and seat bars may not exceed 5" diameter. Seat bar must be no further than 6" behind the seat. All bars must be straight pieces no contoured pieces. - Sedans only, are allowed a gas tank protector, 24” X 6” inches, centered in the back seat area. There must be a 1” space between the back bar and all sheet metal, may not be attached to anything other than back seat bar. All interior sheet metal must remain in stock position. Do not pound! - You may add a diagonal bar behind the drivers seat and directly below the seat bar running from the seat bar to the floor sheet metal. - You may add 4 VERTICAL down bars, welded to your door bar and to the floor sheet metal. These bars may not attach to or conceal a body mount. - No kickers, angled or otherwise. NO cage components may be welded to the frame. - All horizontal cage components must be at least 8" off the floor of the car, including gas tank protector, measured at the body bolt elevation. - cage must not be resting on tranny tunnel has to be at least 4 inches off and may not touch at the end of the event. - All cage components must be in the interior of the car, not inside the door structure with the exception of the driver’s side. This door bar MAY be inside the door structure to allow more room for driver’s safety. HALO OR ROLLOVER BARS: - You may add a halo bar to the cage components listed above. It may nor exceed 5" in diameter. - On a 4-door post car, this bar must attach to the seat bar, no exceptions. - On a 2-door or 4-door non-post car, this bar may be attached to the floor sheet metal. - Halo bars must be in a direct vertical line with the seat bar. - Halo bars may NOT be angled toward the rear of the car. They must be vertical. -You may bolt the halo bar to the roof sheet metal in 2 places. SKID PLATES: - Skid plates are allowed. They must be separate plated for the engine and the transmission. - NO full-length skid plates. - NO bolting or welding the skid plated to the frame. TRUNK LIDS: - Trunk lids must remain 50% in the stock location. The trunk lid must remain on hinges. - You may fasten your trunk lid in ALL OF THE FOLLOWING 3 ways: - You may weld trunk seems solid outside only 2" x 1/8" strap max. - AND -You may weld 4 pcs. of 1" inch all thread vertically to the rear frame rails and run them thru the trunk lid. No double nutting. You may use a 5" washer on the trunk lid bolts, plates may not be welded and must be free-floating. - AND -You may place up to 8 - 3/8" bolts in the drip rail area of the trunk lid. - There must be 12" minimum hole in the trunk lid for inspection purposes. - Trunk lid seams must be clearly visible and accessible, do not pound over. - Relocation of the speaker deck is not allowed it must remain in the stock location, no relocation of any sheet metal or components. Your trunk lid may be V’ed in the center but must be at least 12 inches off trunk body mount location; speaker deck can be 10 inches. - No fully wedged cars, rear quarters and tail light valance must remain vertical. HOODS: - Hoods may be bolted, wired or chained shut ONLY. - you may have 6 hood pins all 1 inch front two can go threw core support for your front two body mounts. - The 2 front bolts may go thru the frame, NOT welded to the frame. The other 4 must be sheet metal to sheet metal. - If you use chain or wire, you may weld up to 5" washers to the hood. If bolting, the 5" washers must be free floating. -You may install up to 12 - 3/8" bolts or self tapping screws per hood cutout. Maximum of 3 cut outs. Maximum washer size is 1" diameter. Cutouts may be for header clearance, air breather clearance or radiator fill opening only. These bolts may NOT be installed in any area other than the immediate perimeter of the cut out. - NO welding of cut outs is allowed. - You must have a minimum 10" hole in the hood for fire protection. - Hoods must be open at inspection time. Hood springs must be removed. DOORS: - Doors may be welded solid, outside only, 2" x 1/8" strap maximum. -You may smash the inner and outer skin together and weld them solid, NO added metal. This includes wagon tailgates - If you do not weld your doors you must chain or #9 wire them closed in at least 2 spots. You may NOT bolt your doors shut. - Drivers door may have window netting for driver’s safety. NO other windows may have netting. - You may weld a plate Maximum 6" x 1/4" across the front doors for protection, not to exceed 6" beyond the front door seams. NO GRADER BLADES. These plates must be in the center of the door, run horizontally. - Wagon tail gates may be welded, solid, **OR** you may bolt the tailgate as in previous years. 4 bolts, 4 nuts, 3/4” max **OR** you may weld 5” pieces of angle to the tailgate and quarters and use 3/4 “ max bolts.- pick 1 not all 3. WINDOWS: - You must have a piece of rebar/all thread/chain(3/8 max),#9 wire or 2”X1/4” straps running from the roof to the cowl in the windshield area for drivers protection, up to 2 pieces max. This may not be designed as reinforcement to the car and must be space at least 18 inches apart on the bottom, and no cross connections. No other added metal or mount plates, either weld directly or bolt to sheet metal only. No component may be mounted, welded or bolted within 6 inches of the DP. - You may use 3 loops, 6 strands of #9 wire total in each window opening. This wire may go to or around the frame. - Station Wagons may not use wire in any window opening beyond the rear passenger door window opening. - The wire must remain in the field of that window. They may not crisscross the interior of the car. OTHER: - Body creasing, enhancing of existing body lines and addition of body lines is allowed to the sides of the car only. Do not fold the metal over to create a doubled effect; any spot with 4 layers of sheet metal will be torched out completely. Trunk lid seams must be clearly visible and accessible. - No doubling of body panels allowed, no added metal allowed - Quarter panels must remain vertical. Tail light valances must remain vertical. - NO SEAM WELDING other than the exterior driver’s doors. - Core support seam welding is NOT allowed. - Washers for #9 Wire may be welded to the roof sheet metal. They may be a maximum of 1 ½" diameter. No washers may be welded for future wire installation. - Holes may be cut in the floor & firewall to accommodate the shifter, fuel lines, and transmission lines. - You may cut a hole in the firewall to accommodate the engine, within reason. - You may have up to 10 - 3/8" bolts in each wheel opening. They may not be higher than 5" above the stock lip location of the wheel opening. ENGINES: - Any engine may be used in any car, but it must be mounted within 5" of the original motor. - You may chain the motor, but you must use an existing bolt. Chains may not be higher than the top of the stock engine mount cup. Chains may not be attached to the cylinder heads, header flanges of engine plates. 1 Chain per side, 3/8 max - You may weld in additional supports to the engine cradle area, but they may not be attached to the frame rails at any point. Only allowed for holding engine in place. - No engine oil coolers are allowed. - You must have an air cleaner over the carburetor at all times. - No starting fluid is allowed. - Mopars are allowed to secure K member in the following ways: Remove pucks and bolt tight to frame, stock size bolts only. Leave pucks in between and weld 4 - 3 inch welds, total (not per side) of 12 inches only. DISTRIBUTOR PROTECTORS/CRADLES: - If you run a DP do not mount your dash bar closer than 5 inches to the rear most point of the firewall/cowl, YOU WILL NOT RUN. -Distributor protectors allowed, must be attached to engine or transmission only, back side must be no wider than 12 inches, must not contact cage before, during or after the event. It may not be welded, bolted or connected to body, hood or frame. Forward supports must be inside normally positioned headers and not extend past the water pump. Call ahead! - Aftermarket Distributor protectors, cradles and pulley protectors are allowed. These must be separate items and may not all be connected for a complete engine protector system. If you use a front plate it may not be gusseted to header flanges or other components in any manner. No “extreme” engine systems. -You may beat flat the engine side of the firewall only, do not weld or bolt firewall. Do not re-enforce the firewall/cowl. Do not beat, paint, bolt, weld on, weld to or modify the driver’s side of the firewall/cowl in any way. TRANSMISSIONS: - Transmissions must be of passenger car origin, transmission coolers may be used, but they must be secured in such a way to prevent injury. - Metal or braided lines must be used. No fuel or low-pressure lines may be used. - Coolers must be secured in a container in the passenger compartment of the car. REAR ENDS: You may run any 5 lug rear ends. No part of rear end may strengthen the car’s frame or body in any way. - You may use any type of rear end (Ford / Mopar / GM / Hybrid). - You may tilt the rear end by lengthening or shortening the trailing arms. Trailing arms must be of passenger car origin and must operate. Trailing arms may be reinforced but must be OEM origin. - Rear end braces are allowed, but they may serve no purpose other than to strengthen the rear end housing. They may not extend from the rear end further than 6” and may not be higher than the top of the axle tube. BODY BOLTS: - All body bolts may be replaced with up to 1" bolts, maximum 8" length. - Core support bolts may be 1" diameter. Core support bolts may go thru the hood and count as 2 of your 6 hood bolts. - You may use pipe up to 1 ½" OD to run the core support all thread thru. These pipes may be welded to the core support using 3/16" strapping, 2 -4" pcs. max per pipe. - Washers must be free floating inside the car and inside the frame on the bottom side. - Do NOT weld the body washers to the floor. Maximum washer size is 5" x 3/16". - Space must be maintained between the body and the frame; Minimum 3/4". - Do not bolt the body directly to the frame. - You may add 2 body mounts in the position of your choice. They must be painted for easy viewing. - If your station wagon came with the body bolts in the humps, these are your 2 additional mounts. You will NOT be allowed to add more mounts. - If you decide to bolt your coil springs in place thru the frame and the rear package tray, these will count as your added mounts. - Wagons are permitted to run 2 of the rear 4 mounts thru the rear pillars. NOT THE ROOF. They must be in the pillar at the tailgate area. - Chrysler products may run 1" all thread behind the radiator support, but must drill a hole in the frame to bolt the all thread. Do not weld these to the frame. RADIATORS, RADIATOR SUPPORTS: - Radiator must be in the stock position in front of the motor. - Radiator supports must remain in the stock location. - OEM style radiators only, no home made tube construction radiators. - You may not add cooling capacity. No supplemental cooling devices allowed. FUEL DELIVERY SYSTEMS: - No plastic gas tanks allowed. Marine tank or metal fuel tank only. - 10+ gallon tank recommended. No coffins, be reasonable! - Original gas tanks must be removed from the car. - You must have the gas tank securely mounted behind the driver’s seat and it must be covered. - Fuel lines must run inside the car, not under the car along the frame. - Fuel lines must be secured to the floor and kept from pinch points - Automotive pump gas only, NO ALCOHOL. - Electric fuel pumps are allowed. They must be covered and have an on/off switch near the steering wheel and clearly marked in large letters. - All lines must be double clamped. TIRES & BRAKES: - No tires taller than 30". 4 wheels max per car. No duals. - No split rims, studded tires or 100% solid wheels, you may use aftermarket center with various bolt patterns, 8 inch max, 14 inch for mobile home tires. Welds must be approved by judges on rear tires. - Valve stem protectors allowed, wheel weights must be removed. - Doubled or foam filled tires OK - we don’t like flats! - All cars must be able to demonstrate the ability to stop at any time. If your brakes do not work, you will not compete. - You may not change tires after inspection, ride height will be measured with your competition tires only. BATTERIES: - A maximum of 2 - 12 volt batteries may be used. - They must be secured inside the car in front of the passenger seat and covered. - Rusted out holes in your floor sheet metal may be patched where components will be mounted or for drivers safety, sheet metal only. No other sheet metal patching is allowed unless it is a safety issue. You may not patch clean and solid floors. - When patching you may NOT weld, you may bolt, self tap or pop rivet all patches. No components to include, gas pedal, battery boxes, etc may be welded, you must bolt only. No part or patch may be attached to any vertical sheet metal(firewall), all must be patched or mounted in the horizontal floorboards only. No over sized mount plates or boxes. Do not mount anything within 6 inches of any body bolt. FRAMES: - The only frame welding allowed is from the front of the a-arms forward, top only, no more than a ½" wide bead. - Buick, Olds and Pontiacs may fill the large hole in the frame behind the radiator support. This must be a butt fit, 1 pass weld only. NO overlap allowed. - The bumper strap to frame welding is covered in the bumper section. - NO other frame welding is allowed. No plating, stuffing, heat treating or foam filling of frames is allowed. Do NOT paint or undercoat your frame or you will not even be inspected and loaded. - You may weld your motor mounts to the engine cradle, not to the frame rails. - Rear frame rails may not be shortened. No dowel pinning of the frame is allowed. - You may notch the frame for minimal pre-bending, but do NOT weld the cut. - You may run a chain or cable or #9 wire from rear rail to rear rail behind the rear humps. 3/8" chain maximum. - You may chain or wire your axle to the frame hump. You may NOT use strapping of any kind for this. Wire or chain only. 3/8" chain maximum. Chain must go around frame on full frame cars, do not bolt through hump creating a frame pin, except uni-body cars may use 1 bolt per side thru the frame for this. - You may not weld the chain links to create a bar effect. - There is no frame shaping allowed at all. Do not sharpen the corners of the frame or square them in any way. The frame humps above the rear tires may be beat in for a distance of 8” in each direction from the center of the hump. That is the ONLY frame shaping that is allowed. BUMPERS, BUMPER BRACKETS: -You must start with a stock/replacement bumper but you are allowed to re-enforce inside or the backside between the shock mounts. Do not re-enforce the front or the ends outside the shock mounting area. Bumper re-enforcement may not be done in anyway to stop frame bending. Bumper must appear stock from the stands, no spike or protruding items. - Bumpers are interchangeable for all cars. Includes compact and mid-sized cars. - You may weld the bumper seams, the shocks and weld the brackets to the frame. You may not weld further than 4 inches behind the radiator support AT ALL when mounting your front bumper brackets on any car. No bracket or welding may be done further than 4 inches behind the radiator support other than the top frame seam. – NO EXCEPTIONS - If you choose not to use brackets, you may weld your bumper directly to the frame. - You may weld the outer chrome skin to the bumper inner frame. - You may not weld the bumper to the body at any time. - Bumpers may be cut to keep them out of the tires. - Bumpers may be flipped (upside down). - Compression bumper shocks may be drained, slid back into the shock and welded fully. - All bumper brackets and shock components must be OEM automotive materials. - REAR bumper brackets may not be welded more than 4” onto the frame rail - You may run 4 loops of #9 wire from the radiator support to the bumper in 2 locations outside of the radiator. - You may weld a 2" x 6" x 1/4" strap from the bumper to the frame to help keep the bumper on the car. This must remain in one piece. It cannot be angled to the corner of the bumper to form a kicker. 6" is the maximum length. - You may run 2 pieces of all thread 1" x no more than 14" thru the body pan to help hold the bumper on. 5" washer maximum for this bolt. - Bumper height must be 16" to 22" measured to the bottom of the frame at the back and front body mount location.
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