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Post by ynotracing on Mar 30, 2012 18:05:58 GMT -5
I see they deleted a guys post right after wades response as to why any one would buy from them. so basically u can type what u want over there but any bad press they will delete so their shiny turd still looks shiny what a bunch of scum
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Post by blackandblue on Mar 30, 2012 18:13:32 GMT -5
One word in his response made me laugh, industry.I thought Demolition Derby was smashing junk cars?
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Post by h8u2 on Mar 30, 2012 18:26:20 GMT -5
DAMM..wade and sam took a page from Obama's book.Just keep believing you'r own lie's until it all colapses, and blame it on everyone else for having it out for you.whata joke.sam and wade will be remember'd allright,along with tory.the 3 stooges that destroyed the sport they claimed to love,,hahaha was all about money and power
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Post by DerbyMaMa on Mar 30, 2012 18:28:12 GMT -5
Sam Williams Online Admin Joined: 01/03/2012 Posts: .Re: Hot topic on We Smash about UD & Wade Fri, 03/30/2012 - 4:11pm Matt, Yes we are in the design phase of a new engine cradle. We have had our local laser cutter work on drawings over the past few weeks. We have had a huge supply vs demand issue. We are tired of showing up at a show and vending against the folks that make our cradles and them telling us they can't fill our orders but they have plenty to sell. Case and point we have a large order in with XXX right now that they say they can not fill because they are down to only welding one day a week but yet they go to a derby auction last weekend and blow out their cradles at a reduce cost. Our business model is that we have the parts in stock and ship in 24-48 hours most of the time. When we are out products we can not take care of our customers. Now for the details of this cradle yes we are working on a cradle that will be similar to XXX with some changes. We have not sold one of these cradles into the market at this time and were not even planning on putting these cradles into the market until May. We would never sell another cradle and claim it to be a XXX cradle. Coping - XXX has copied everything they have and made minor modifications to it, as many people in this industry have. Cradle came from Overkill originally, Brake Pedal came from Niner Motorsports, Lower Mounts came from Overkill. We will not be selling a "cheap knock off" cradle, the cradle we are creating is going to be a great cradle with lots of features and always in stock!!! We notified XXX that we were bringing on another cradle vendor and they were fine with it until they figured out we were cutting them ourselves. We want to provide the demo industry with the best products we can with the shortest lead times. We have vendors that are doing a great job and value the business we have given them Our plan was to offer two cradles but that we understand that buinsess model may not work for XXX and this time. With that being said we will have cradles in stock next week and have pictures of the new designs up on www.derbyparts.com after the weekend. The store is doing great and we appreciate all the business and especially the repeat buinsess. Thanks, Sam *Since it hadn't been posted. Just wanted everyone to see Sam's response to the question... |
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Post by hammerdown63 on Mar 30, 2012 18:28:47 GMT -5
I see they deleted a guys post right after wades response as to why any one would buy from them. so basically u can type what u want over there but any bad press they will delete so their shiny turd still looks shiny what a bunch of scum Just checked after i saw your post yup a deleted post as to y would anyone buy from them when they can get it cheaper |
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Post by crusher71 on Mar 30, 2012 19:31:51 GMT -5
I DOUBT THOSE 2 RUBES STOCK MORE DERBY PARTS THAN I DO... IN FACT, I WILL GUARANTEE THAT...... FUNNIEST THING IS, THEY DONT SELL CARS........ BECAUSE THEY CANNOT HAVE THE DESIGN OF A 74 IMPALA DUPLICATED IN THEIR " FAB SHOP"? FAG SHOP MAYBE, CERTAINLY WADE DOESNT WANT TO GET HIS HANDS DIRTY....UNLESS ITS COUNTING MONEY........ I HEARD HIS BASH PARTS TRUCK DIDNT SELL poop FOR PARTS....HA HA EVERYONE IS ON TO THEM NOW AND .... I TOLD YA SO.........  |
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Post by Jesse 10x on Mar 30, 2012 19:47:11 GMT -5
This is what we call Karma, my friends...
Glad to see some of this finally coming to light for everyone to see. Too bad we may never know the full extent of their shenanigans...
Jon, glad to see we aren't the only ones who feel the way we do anymore, LOL...
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Post by Comet Cyclone on Mar 30, 2012 20:00:26 GMT -5
Dare I say the next thing might be to use the credit cards to make fake orders from previous purchases?   I think if there's money to made they will have a hand in it. |
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Post by 76yorker on Mar 30, 2012 20:59:01 GMT -5
I just threw up after reading that. Then I read it again, and yes, threw up what was left. Couldn't keep up with orders? How about when you are supposed to order a minimum amount of product to get the discount and then order only a few so you can maintain the appearance of stocking that product - that is what really happens. I have emails in my stash. I save everything. I was a fan of Andrew Breitbart, and I learned to let people get the rope and make the noose first, then pull the chair out. Scott never fails to take the words right out of my mouth. How about we ignore these two pieces of work. When they show up at derbys gather around and make fun of the two pretty boys until they cry and hold each other all the way back to their bad a$$ derby shops they have that are filled with lube, rope, and bananas. Why would anyone buy from 2 chodes who do not derby and do not know why a cradles is made the way it is. Like where the points of stress are and why you would want to add a gusset. Talked to them at Sturgis, Ky demo they couldn't explain what anything was or what it was used for just knew what the price was. If everyone wants the problem to go away then close the wecrash account stop advertising and just flat out ignore them. I'll wait to kick the chair for a while longer. |
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Post by 76yorker on Mar 30, 2012 21:00:28 GMT -5
I just threw up after reading that. Then I read it again, and yes, threw up what was left. Couldn't keep up with orders? How about when you are supposed to order a minimum amount of product to get the discount and then order only a few so you can maintain the appearance of stocking that product - that is what really happens. I have emails in my stash. I save everything. I was a fan of Andrew Breitbart, and I learned to let people get the rope and make the noose first, then pull the chair out. I'll wait to kick the chair for a while longer. Scott never fails to take the words right out of my mouth. How about we ignore these two pieces of work. When they show up at derbys gather around and make fun of the two pretty boys until they cry and hold each other all the way back to their bad a$$ derby shops they have that are filled with lube, rope, and bananas. Why would anyone buy from 2 chodes who do not derby and do not know why a cradles is made the way it is. Like where the points of stress are and why you would want to add a gusset. Talked to them at Sturgis, Ky demo they couldn't explain what anything was or what it was used for just knew what the price was. If everyone wants the problem to go away then close the wecrash account stop advertising and just flat out ignore them. |
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Post by psychojimmy on Mar 30, 2012 22:41:55 GMT -5
2 biggest derbies so far this year arguably have been sturgis ky and razorback rumble in hot springs ark., anyone notice as the feature cara pulled on the track what big white truck was leaving? UDP.....thought they were derby guys? Im a derby guy and I like sticking around til the end and seeing who wins....don't u? I was 6 hours and 13 hours from both those shows and stuck around alot longer than they did and as a bit of a $ minded guy myself can guarantee they didn't cover fuel at either event in a international box truck from Nebraska .....
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Post by ZTR09 on Mar 30, 2012 23:15:26 GMT -5
UD wants to be the cherrio box with the walmart branding on it  |
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Post by ~Shake N' Bake75x~ on Mar 30, 2012 23:31:14 GMT -5
Wade.. if your on here under a fake username.. i hope you read this... we were right beside you guys at sturgis kentucky.. we showed up an hour before you.. and packed up an hour after you. only difference is, like true derby guys, we stayed for the show unlike you and your boyfriend... id like to thank you for all the business you generated our way for being such a dumbass and not knowing your so called "products" or should i say generic knock offs of some of the best vendors in the business.. i would also like to remind you what i personally told you at sturgis... YOU runied WeCrash.. Tory Schutte sold you wecrash under the impression you were going to better the site, better advertising, etc... instead what do you do? ATTEMPT to convert the whole derby community into believing your bullshit lies and excuses.. UD Superstore is a hoax... why the fvck would anyone buy anything from you, the prices are wayy over priced, and you two knuckleheads are ignorant as fvck! and again id like to thank you for sending us new members everyday to the new demolition derby community home www.wesmash.proboards.com ..... bottom line is... you thought you could pull a fast one on some very respectable people.. well apparently your not as smart as you thought... maybe you should sell out your so called "business" and give WeCrash back to tory so we can all go back to how things used to be having you as just a bump in the road.... you two are not real derby guys.. and your not very good salesmen.. you have no idea what your selling.. you just know it will make you money.. Ultimate Derby is only in the derby world for one thing, and one thing only.. $$$ |
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Post by David Bryan on Mar 30, 2012 23:35:12 GMT -5
Scott, you crack me up. I also about chucked when I read the part about "We have had our local laser cutter work on drawings over the past few weeks..." Please....,"drawings"? who's drawings? Here, for those who want to see a picture: ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-131985144935450_2202_5160685Most all know I build a Dana 60, have for many years now. Some know I build a truss and back plate for the Dana 60. I use bolt on gussets in the corners of my truss. The bolts, bolt through the back plate (that bolts on). This is my design, has been for years now. Sam Williams copies, I mean sells, a Dana 60. He also has a truss and back plate. Oddly, the same, as if you were to trace it out, inch for inch. Thing is, they did not even have to go to that much trouble. They got into files, changed them, and then sent the file right to the laser, IN THE SAME SHOP. Sam does not use gussets in "his" truss system. His back plate welds on. The question is WHY ARE THERE HOLES IN THE BACK PLATE OF "HIS" TRUSS?? Simple, he did not delete those unused holes before he sent the file to laser. So, out came "his" truss with unused holes cut in the back plate. Look close at the picture, you can see light through the unused holes. He changed other things (made the truss weaker by the way) to call it "his". I am not sure if Wade knows this or not. Does not matter. Sam you may claim you got permission from the original designer, well, WE all know the truth. SAM, if you are going to show a picture of a product, PLEASE, USE YOUR OWN PARTS! People may start to think the Dana is mine. I do not do that kind of work! I do not think I would let one of those go out of my shop! Also, just to stop any false advertising claims, you do NOT sell a Dana with 1/2" wall tubes. 40 spline axle shafts are NOT 1 1/2". AND, I feel, it is not the best there is. David Bryan |
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Post by David Bryan on Mar 30, 2012 23:51:35 GMT -5
I wonder how long it will take to remove the picture? Time will tell...Time is ticking....
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