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Post by scottgropp on Mar 30, 2012 23:55:13 GMT -5
NO I DO NOT SUPPLY PARTS TO UD!!
UD approached me, took me to lunch, and wanted to make my product a premier product in their line.
In the end, I stayed away not because I was worried about my stuff - but for one other reason - they were copying my friend David Bryan. heck, I told David that my biggest reason for turning down their orders was because of my friendship with him. He said I didn't need to do that. I said (despite the fact that everyone thinks I'm greedy) I've never been in this for the money, the money was just a by-product of me loving to build stuff others could not think of themselves.
And here we are today. Still not ready to kick out the chair - but we'll see how far it takes for my leg to get twitchy.
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Post by Lee M Engstrom on Mar 30, 2012 23:59:16 GMT -5
Sorry if in the wrong place - let me know if anyone would be interested - these would be printed wrap decals and I can make them a standard size and offer different colors - if there is interest I will make a separate thread with details.     Lee Engstrom Graphics www.engstromgraphics.net |
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Post by chevyman422 on Mar 31, 2012 0:00:05 GMT -5
come on man! kick the chair!!!! there is a linch mob waiting to see it... dont disapoint us! lol
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Post by scottgropp on Mar 31, 2012 0:01:14 GMT -5
By the way - I know many of you think I am an butt. I hope now many of you realize when you know many hidden facets of the derby world (like what this site is doing here), you can make comments and decisions that many people don't understand. My biggest problem sometimes is knowing what I know, but not being able to disclose how and why I know things and how they affect what is real vs. what is perceived and presented. The behind-the-scenes stuff about who is in who's pocket and the motivations behind people's behavior would scare many folks. Here, at least for now, that can be shared. Later, maybe not.
Trust me, I know what I'm doing.
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Post by scottgropp on Mar 31, 2012 0:03:00 GMT -5
Maybe over here, with this transition, people will trust me a little more about why I state what I state.
You can't argue with facts, though many try.
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Post by noser23x on Mar 31, 2012 1:24:24 GMT -5
Just reading this makes me sick. When I heard Tory sold the old site I just new it was going to be ruined. The new WeCrash f****** sucks! Remember when WeCrash was for the drivers not the money. I am just so pissed off that they have been caught bet then deny the fact that it happened, Sam and Wade are losers!!! We should stone them at Spring Explosion
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Post by madmax on Mar 31, 2012 6:50:09 GMT -5
NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE FOOLISH POSTINGS ON WECRASH!
There is nothing to be accomplished running over there and basically saying nah nah nah..
grow up.
It actually gives strength to a dying site...
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Post by David Bryan on Mar 31, 2012 8:30:00 GMT -5
noser23x, you hit the bull's eye. They got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, and then claim they did nothing wrong. WHO DOES THAT?? Seems to me the "we were already looking for another vendor...and XXX could not keep up with production"... is a VERY good excuse. An excuse you come up with AFTER YOU GET COUGHT!! Good post noser 23x. However the part about stone them at Spring... that is a little harsh. You go to jail for that. Simply let other drivers know the truth, let the other drivers decide, that will hurt them the most. David Bryan
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Post by Collier7 on Mar 31, 2012 8:33:39 GMT -5
It would be great to see them drive all they way to spring explosion and not sell a single item!
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Post by 73demo on Mar 31, 2012 8:41:28 GMT -5
It would be great to see them drive all they way to spring explosion and not sell a single item! ;D maybe just like post on there web site they can vanish if no one will spend a dime at there place and every one can see the knock offs for them self |
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Post by auctioneerhere on Mar 31, 2012 9:10:38 GMT -5
Scott Gropp I'm sending you a box of poison ivy. Please rub on legs twice a day until they are twitchy.  I'm going to miss the LS thread... |
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Post by 76yorker on Mar 31, 2012 9:15:15 GMT -5
Keep it coming Scott and David. I am loving this more then cookies and milk.
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Post by scottgropp on Mar 31, 2012 9:18:51 GMT -5
It would be great to see them drive all they way to spring explosion and not sell a single item! It would be nice if people stood on their morals and did something like that. But remember, we have folks in this sport who didn't mind copying other vendor's ideas and designs long before UD. So is it so hard to believe that the scum would pair up with the scum? I've also seen customers who want to purchase thier product from a person who sells it for a few dollars less. Would it be nice to operate in a sport that takes a stand on this type of behavior? Yes. Do I believe it will work that way? I don't have a lot of hope for that. |
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Post by livetohit76 on Mar 31, 2012 10:24:00 GMT -5
man 3 weeks of haulin farmin and buildin. a guy misses alot of action on here!! makes me feel like home again lmao. im headed back to tha shop will be perty funny at spring ex. kinda like tha gal we all have woke up with and wish we wouldnt have. then the awkward moment the next time you see her. i bet they tread on perty thin ice if they even come over to vend
later on c yall at spring ex
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Post by 99xtony on Mar 31, 2012 10:26:35 GMT -5
I was there to see the design process that went into the design of the cradle and infact have an original first design cradle that was modified to fit mechanical parts. Xxx guys are very good and very professional guys espescially on "meeting nights" and am proud to have had an oppurtunity to help them when they needed it most. they have helped me in so many ways I can't even wrap my head around why they even would but that's the kind of guys they are.
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